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Re: Spear user

Postby Patroclus » November 20th, 2013, 1:10 pm

I have made a program to help me making custom characters. It shows me that the 3 skills you give are too much. Also the spear as starting equipment is very powerful. So I am posting the following stats:
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You can also remove 1 point of Body to increase 1 point of Mind, so to have one more skill. Or you can add a serious restriction like “can’t use armors”.

ps: I will post the program to the project’s section soon…
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Re: Spear user

Postby soppathekeitto » November 20th, 2013, 2:03 pm

Patroclus wrote:I have made a program to help me making custom characters. It shows me that the 3 skills you give are too much. Also the spear as starting equipment is very powerful. So I am posting the following stats:
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You can also remove 1 point of Body to increase 1 point of Mind, so to have one more skill. Or you can add a serious restriction like “can’t use armors”.

ps: I will post the program to the project’s section soon…



Starting Weapon... Staff/Wooden Spear (no ability to Throw) was thinking that you cant use the Throw before you can buy Spear. And i think i remove the doubleattack and keep Throwing/recovery and Healing (herbs)

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Re: Spear user

Postby Goblin-King » November 20th, 2013, 2:44 pm

You need to be a Champion (complete 3 quests) to gain the throw skill - simple!


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Re: Spear user

Postby Malcadon » November 20th, 2013, 6:01 pm

soppathekeitto wrote:so meaning like this :skull: :skull: + Image . You got the kill and spear back but if you got :skull: :skull: + Image tether snaps and you hav to go recovery that spear your self from the corpse. And recovery it from corpse or Wall that counts as action

If you roll a :skull: or a :blackshield: on that greed die, the spear returns to your hand. If you roll a :whiteshield: on that die, the cord brakes and the spear is lost (disappeared into the background, it a wall and broke, it ran though the enemy but it snapped he fall over, etc.). The tether (rope, cord, line, etc.) is just a means to give the spear a boomerang effect.

soppathekeitto wrote: :skull: :skull: + Image if you got staff or other weapon
:skull: + Image dagger etc.

*There is limition of the Double attack skill i wrote it can be use only 2 times

Here is how is works:

She attacks with the spear (2 dice weapon) and rolls :skull: + Image. She scored 2 hits, and gets another attack. (Yeah, I forgot to note that she can only make one extra attack like this.)

However, if she rolled :skull: + Image, she scores 1 hit, and fails to make a second attack.

The "Special Die" is not an extra die you roll, but its one of the normal dice that has been designated to trigger some game effect. If you want to make a second attack less frequent, you could change :skull: to :whiteshield:, or even to :blackshield: if you want the second attack to be rare.

The "Special Die" rule came from another post about "fumble rolls" and random mishaps (weapon drops, shield brakes, someone slips and so forth) that could happen while attacking or defending. Originally, the idea was to have the effect triggered when someone roll all :blackshield:, but everyone quickly pointed out that the odds lower for every die used. Then I proposed an idea based on a rule form West End Games' D6 System: a dice pool system with one die used to determine a minor mishap, regardless if the roll was successful or not.

soppathekeitto wrote:I whas thinking limitation to 3-4 time to used it or she can use it like TEMPLAR finding them when you try to find treasure insted of deck you get one herb (need 3 to make healing etc. ) but it is not automatically that you get herb :roll1: :roll2: :roll3: you get herb and :roll4: :roll5: :roll6: you get treasure card..

That would work better then what I was proposing. My method would have it so that she would eat a lot of turns outside of combat healing a small amount of damage. Players would abuse that ability to fully heal themselves between encounters, thus making the game take longer - much like "farming" in MMORPGs.

soppathekeitto wrote:Heh my wife told me WHY WHY half naked go FULL naked that costume dont make any sense etc. :gargoyle:

If she means that she should be fully clothed or fully naked, then I can't argue with that logic -- more so, the latter! ;)

A loincloth like hers - called a "breechcloth" or even "sickle loincloth" - would normally wrap around the crotch, and drape over the front and back. The pic makes it look like she has a clean-shaven crotch (with the loincloth being nothing more then drapes on her belt), or just her right buttocks, but I'm content with the former. :mrgreen: |_P


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Re: Spear user

Postby soppathekeitto » November 20th, 2013, 6:48 pm

friday my sister want to play HQ so she is goint to test Amatsoni whit this settings

Amatsoni of the kadonnut metsä

AD= 2WD
DD= 2WD
Movement = 2xD6

Mind 4
BP 6
+ 3 skill

I. Throw (only spear and you dont loose the weapon)
-you sacrifice your D6 points for the skill
D6:4 is 1 WD + basic WD ammount

II. Double attack whit anyweapon only 2 times.
-before you can use this skill you need to get
D6 = 4 and then throw WD x 2 x 2


III. Healing can restore 1-4 BP [2 per Quest]??
-you need to collect 3 herbs. *find by search for treasure (Eucharis amazonica)
D6= 1-3 Herb D6= 4-6 treasure card
shield per BP

Starting Weapon... Staff/Wooden Spear (no ability to Throw)
Starting Armour... None

Usable Weapons: Dagger, Staff, Hand Axe, Shortsword, Spear, Crossbow, Broadsword, Longsword.
Usable Armor: Helmet, Shield*, Bracers*, Chainmail.

*You may use a Shield or Bracers, but not both at once.


If she means that she should be fully clothed or fully naked, then I can't argue with that logic -- more so, the latter! ;)

A loincloth like hers - called a "breechcloth" or even "sickle loincloth" - would normally wrap around the crotch, and drape over the front and back. The pic makes it look like she has a clean-shaven crotch (with the loincloth being nothing more then drapes on her belt), or just her right buttocks, but I'm content with the former. :mrgreen: |_P

aah i know that... woke up one time wearing only that.. dont ask i idea why (memory loss)

Here is how is works:

She attacks with the spear (2 dice weapon) and rolls :skull: + Kuva. She scored 2 hits, and gets another attack. (Yeah, I forgot to note that she can only make one extra attack like this.)

However, if she rolled :skull: + Kuva, she scores 1 hit, and fails to make a second attack.

The "Special Die" is not an extra die you roll, but its one of the normal dice that has been designated to trigger some game effect. If you want to make a second attack less frequent, you could change :skull: to :whiteshield:, or even to :blackshield: if you want the second attack to be rare.

The "Special Die" rule came from another post about "fumble rolls" and random mishaps (weapon drops, shield brakes, someone slips and so forth) that could happen while attacking or defending. Originally, the idea was to have the effect triggered when someone roll all :blackshield:, but everyone quickly pointed out that the odds lower for every die used. Then I proposed an idea based on a rule form West End Games' D6 System: a dice pool system with one die used to determine a minor mishap, regardless if the roll was successful or not.


hav to test this too but i think i goin to remove this from skill list.

by the way how many spear she can or any heroa can carry.. i found my big brothers character who got 34 spears and axes about 55....
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Re: Spear user

Postby Malcadon » November 20th, 2013, 7:16 pm

soppathekeitto wrote:by the way how many spear she can or any heroa can carry.. i found my big brothers character who got 34 spears and axes about 55....

In the UK rules, you are limited to the Equipment Cards available. So if there is only one Spear card in the deck, then only one player could possess that card. The US rules on the other hand post all the weapons and armor in the box insert called The Armory, and the rules place no limits on how much gear a Hero can carry. Even though the rules notes that a suit of Platemail Armor lowers a Hero's movement to 1 red die, so as long as the Hero does not dawn on any of them, he can buy a dozen suits and carry them around like coins in a purse! :roll:


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Re: Spear user

Postby soppathekeitto » November 21st, 2013, 3:49 am

Malcadon wrote:
soppathekeitto wrote:by the way how many spear she can or any heroa can carry.. i found my big brothers character who got 34 spears and axes about 55....

In the UK rules, you are limited to the Equipment Cards available. So if there is only one Spear card in the deck, then only one player could possess that card. The US rules on the other hand post all the weapons and armor in the box insert called The Armory, and the rules place no limits on how much gear a Hero can carry. Even though the rules notes that a suit of Platemail Armor lowers a Hero's movement to 1 red die, so as long as the Hero does not dawn on any of them, he can buy a dozen suits and carry them around like coins in a purse! :roll:


I just read EU / Finnish rules.. funny there is no mention about limitations or no limitations about Equipment Cards etc. only that when you buy something you wear it right away
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Re: Spear user

Postby knightkrawler » November 21st, 2013, 7:34 am

Malcadon is right. Maybe there's a glitch in the Finnish translation. Heard about those.
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Re: Spear user

Postby soppathekeitto » November 22nd, 2013, 3:05 am

Today is the day when i can test this spear user amatson. i still try to find figure for it but no change yet. Best option that i can find is naked metal figure B)
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Re: Spear user

Postby Sotiris » November 22nd, 2013, 3:50 am

Good luck with your try! If you find her OP try this version:
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Mind: 3
Attack: 2
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starting weapon: hand axe
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2) selfhealing effects: when drinking a potion she gains +1 body point (examples: heroic brew=2 attacks+1 b.p. heal, healing potion=1d6+1 b.p. heal)
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