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[Poll] Morcar vs Zargon : fight !

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Which name would you rather use for the Evil Sorcerer?

Morcar
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Zargon
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Re: [Poll] Morcar vs Zargon : fight !

Postby MadMickyG » May 7th, 2016, 6:32 pm

Is it possible to disagree to agree to disagree?

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Re: [Poll] Morcar vs Zargon : fight !

Postby Cael Darkhollow » November 9th, 2017, 12:59 pm

As an American, I didn't even know about the European versions and expansions until at least a decade after I thought I had completed my HeroQuest collection. :o :oops: then along came the Internet and online shopping to fix that.
I grew up with Zargon. I play the US rules and read Zargon. However, the expansion Wizards of Morcar is official, hard to argue with that, besides Wizards of Zargon just sounds silly to me. I think the name Morcar sounds better and has real world etymology and history, Zargon sounds more like a cliched tv show villian name. I use it as a pseudonym used by Morcar to hide his true identity.
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Re: [Poll] Morcar vs Zargon : fight !

Postby Gold Bearer » November 9th, 2017, 2:11 pm

Cael Darkhollow wrote:I grew up with Zargon. I play the US rules and read Zargon. However, the expansion Wizards of Morcar is official, hard to argue with that, besides Wizards of Zargon just sounds silly to me. I think the name Morcar sounds better and has real world etymology and history, Zargon sounds more like a cliched tv show villian name.
It sounds ridiculous, really sounds like a joke name. The weird thing is that the US version came after so why change it? Too similar to Mentor maybe.
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Re: [Poll] Morcar vs Zargon : fight !

Postby knightkrawler » November 9th, 2017, 3:19 pm

Zargon does sound an awful lot like someone Flash Gordon would have to fight.
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Re: [Poll] Morcar vs Zargon : fight !

Postby cornixt » November 9th, 2017, 3:54 pm

Zargon reminds me of the ridiculous film Zardoz.


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Re: [Poll] Morcar vs Zargon : fight !

Postby j_dean80 » November 9th, 2017, 5:58 pm

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Re: [Poll] Morcar vs Zargon : fight !

Postby knightkrawler » November 10th, 2017, 12:18 am

j_dean80 wrote:Zoltan


That's a real Hungarian name. Real names are always awkward in Fantasy settings, whatever language or culture they might be from.
A Song of Ice and Fire is a niotable exception. G.R.R. Martin uses the real English language to come up with these awesome cohesive and consistent name-linguistics
that retains thw Fantasy aspect in a very unique way.
It's really hard to get this stuff right nowadays. Tolkien came up with his own system of linguistics, too. Again, cohesive and consistent and thus believable.
Almost no writer or Fantasy setting has come up with anything similar, instead almost exclusivel opting for weird generic words that have very no credibility to them, especially when put next to each other, for instance when you look at neighboring cities in RPG maps.
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Re: [Poll] Morcar vs Zargon : fight !

Postby j_dean80 » November 10th, 2017, 2:13 am

knightkrawler wrote:
j_dean80 wrote:Zoltan


That's a real Hungarian name. Real names are always awkward in Fantasy settings, whatever language or culture they might be from.
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Almost no writer or Fantasy setting has come up with anything similar, instead almost exclusivel opting for weird generic words that have very no credibility to them, especially when put next to each other, for instance when you look at neighboring cities in RPG maps.
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Was a "Dude Where's My Car?" Reference. Zargon makes me think of Zoltan. I grew up with Zargon though so forever it will be Zargon.

Morcar was a British earl. Hard to make a name that never existed.
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Re: [Poll] Morcar vs Zargon : fight !

Postby knightkrawler » November 10th, 2017, 6:36 am

In that case it's a phonological appropriation.
and it's old and unused now.
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Re: [Poll] Morcar vs Zargon : fight !

Postby Spookyhappyfun » November 10th, 2017, 9:56 am

Gold Bearer wrote:Too similar to Mentor maybe.


I imagine that's probably why. Plus with that evil 'Z' in there, it sounds more sinister to American kids. Seems like it's right out of a bad Saturday morning cartoon.

But I was that American kid so it'll always be Zargon to me. I didn't even know there were different versions until I discovered this site earlier this year.


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