HeroQuest 25th

[knightkrawler]

He did say goodbye. Nothing to do with us.

[wolfie907]

lame. heroquestfrance posted some very cool stuff on this forum and he has an awesome collection of gaming stuff. I personally still look forward to seeing the gamezone hq, don't really care what anybody thinks about that [not so easy to get rid of me sorry guys]. you'll do hate on it pretty bad around here. I aint defending it but ill give it a look before I call it trash. and hey it probably aint legal but I don't really care about that I have recasts and blantant ripoffs ive gotten from people right here on this forum that I paid money for so I don't see why that's ok here but gamezone aint. it is the same thing gamezone is just doing it bigger

[Teldurn]

It's called willful ignorance of truth. Choosing to believe something that has been proven to be false, simply because believing it is true works better for you in some way.

[wolfie907]

huh I am in touch with reality but it has not been proven in any way to me. I agree on several of the points made in this thread and others is gamezone out to make money undoubtedly but in my view so are other recasters and heroquest imitators many of which belong to this site do they do it for free or even at cost no way so how is this any better than gamezone none of them get hated on [except goldenboy but I don't like him at all either] it doesn't bug me as long as they don't charge crazy prices im a capitalist that's what American society is based on and I don't personally care about legalities as long as I get what I want. did I back the lanzos funding no I didn't trust that *lemony goodness* and wouldn't put money into something I never heard of before, I was a kickstart backer until that got canceled ill buy some if it goes to retail im not sure it will but I wont say it sucks before ive even seen it that is close minded and unintelligent

[Jerry Hawthorne]

im a capitalist that's what American society is based on and I don't personally care about legalities as long as I get what I want.

That's NOT what America is about. America is about innovation and honesty in commerce. Creative and honest people worked hard to create Hero Quest, and Hasbro took the risk of backing that project. That work belongs to them in one form or another. To attempt to make money off of other people's work without their permission is called theft. I have many friends in this industry. I know the damages of IP theft. It is your choice if you want to spend your money with thieves, but don't claim that this is the American way.

[TMU]

Here we go again...

[wolfie907]

@ jerry hawthorne no my friend I did not say theft is the American way I said capitalism is these are not the same and I make no such claim, further I said personally I don't care about the legalities this is not the American way that is only my own feeling as I said before ive already bought recasts, sculpt updates, bases and the like from people on this forum. @ everyone my main point is that this seems to be acceptable to the majority here but gamezone is not I can not see a difference and find it hard to take serious someone I know has spent money on other recasts calling gamezone thieves

[TMU]

I claim to be neutral on the case. I am not saying it's right, but I am neither thinking it's wrong. If who ever has the rights for the game/name/whatever thinks this is wrong, they have all the power to put a full and complete stop to this game.

[knightkrawler]

@ jerry hawthorne no my friend I did not say theft is the American way I said capitalism is these are not the same and I make no such claim, further I said personally I don't care about the legalities this is not the American way that is only my own feeling as I said before ive already bought recasts, sculpt updates, bases and the like from people on this forum. @ everyone my main point is that this seems to be acceptable to the majority here but gamezone is not I can not see a difference and find it hard to take serious someone I know has spent money on other recasts calling gamezone thieves

1. There's a huge and substantial difference between
a. A recast miniature, the design of which serves no commercial purpose for the original designer/manufacturer.
To elaborate this: Neither Games Workshop nor Hasbro have any intention whatsoever to sell recasts or originals of the HQ miniatures. Both of them want to sell NEW miniatures and other games or props, and do so every few years to be precise.
and
b. A copyrighted/trademarked/patented body of ideas and intellectual properties from which a new commercial product is derived.

2. There's a huge and substantial difference between
a. Recasting and selling for cheaper than the original goes on ebay (actually only the production cost without any profit as all recasters in the inne claim!) something that the original casters have NO interest to sell themselves
and
b. Taking a working body of copyrighted ideas and assimilating them into a new product and then selling it for your own profit

[Jerry Hawthorne]

Yes as I understand it, most recasters charge just enough to offset their personal costs.