HeroQuest 25th anniversary crowdfunding!

[chaoticprime]

Turns out it's none of them!

http://www.fancueva.com/ludico/comunica ... iversario/

Daniel.

No, he was right, it was "Those With The Name In Commercial Use Issaries,"

[Thrawn]

I warned and I warned and I warned and I warned. And I questioned and I asked and I inquired... Many didn't listen, GZ didn't answer, and many again didn't listen when I emphasized that GZ didn't answer. Then again, most of the backers are probably not even members here and had no way to heed any warnings that they didn't think of themselves.
GameZone were taking on the lawyers of not less than three parties. And what parties they are:
Triggerhappy Games Workshop, Monopotoy Hasbro, and Those With The Name In Commercial Use Issaries co.
Wanna make a poll to guess who put up the stop sign?

It wasn't that people didn't listen when you (and many others) questioned...it's that people formed lynch mobs to go hunt down people that questioned. I don't get called a troll that often, but it happened on multiple occasions in this KS.

[Jackyboy]

wow!

Just got home from work and went to check up on HeroQuest 25th. Looks like you guys were right! It's a shame, but I can't say I was suprised.

Soo....now the question remains, whats going to happen to the $500,000+ that has been given already?!?!?

[chaoticprime]

It doesn't officially get given until the end-date.

[ScooterinAB]

I have some thoughts shared on BGG about the IP situation (I couldn't find this thread. Long story).

Basically, as I kind of suspected earlier on, there is a line up of known and unknown parties who are probably trying to shut this project down. As the rights holder to the name in the US, Moon Design is basically the first gauntlet. If Gamezone manages to reconcile with Moon Design over their obvious attempt to sell in the US, I suspect that the line up of other angry parties will continue.

I made a joke to a friend of mine that reading about this made me think of a quote from the Canadian sitcom Corner Gas. In a particular episode about the town building a world's largest ___ as a tourist attraction, someone suggested a gardening hoe. The main two characters were making jokes about how the word could be misconstrued, with one saying that he wanted to run through the streets screaming "it's a big, dirty hoe!" Reading about this mess has made me want to do the same, since there are those who genuinely support this project and believe that the C&D request by Moon Design is baseless.

For the record, I'm not trying to be a hater, nor am I trying to start a fight with anyone. I'm genuinely concerned about this and the legalities following it. I'm also concerned that the changes needed to make this legally viable will make the game no longer HeroQuest. For those who wish to support it, that's fine. As long as the supporters know what they are backing, the risks of doing so, and know the background surrounding the project, all the power to them. My personal concerns are moving me closer and closer to the "do not buy" group, but those are just my concerns.

And to answer Jackyboy's question, the money is pledged but not collected. If the project fails or backers decide to withdraw their pledge, that money isn't collected. For the record, a number of posters at BGG have said that they would be withdrawing their pledges shortly, or that they only pledged so that they have access to the comments and updates. I did the same thing once for a book release (the author was the head of a failed company and was accused of taking money with no intention of delivering the ordered products), and others seem to do the same.

[Jackyboy]

thank you both for clearing up the pledge concern Good I'm glad no one is out of pocket then....just yet! It does certainly look like if they are able to release this game at all then It wont be anything like HeroQuest which we all love. Having said that, especially if the price drops because of this, then I'm still not saying 100% that I wouldn't be interested in getting the game (whatever the hell it will be called! )

[tasoe]

That is too bad for all the people who pledged their money and now worry about whether the might get it back. That's a shame.
What is also a shame, is that it raised 500k in a couple of days. Did I read this right? I mean, come on, that's heroquest right there. Any new game with new name couldn't have gotten more than 10 pledges (the creators' siblings) with that kind of presentation and price.

We all exploit the name HeroQuest, but we do not manipulate people into buying our custom quests/cards/etc. Those guys did and it's a damn shame.
I hope all pledgers involved can pull out and get their money back and never pledge any money into something that looks so unprofessional.

Here at Gamezone it is our hopeful understand that its activation is possibly by error as both parties where coming to an agreement.

That is funny. Very believable.

[Jackyboy]

$500,000 in a month...no wonder the lawyers got involved! I wouldn't be suprised if this sparks a real real official HeroQuest 25th! If it's all about money then they've got proof that they'll see alot of it

[Tott]

kickstarter does NOT take any money until the KS has closed and the KS has reached its funding goal. no one has lost any money.

[Sjeng]

Exactly, when the C/D is lifted people can manage their pledges as always, and the timer will continue from where it stopped. No days lost. OR the KS is cancelled, and nothing happens to people's money.

I put my money on the latter