HeroQuest lost Quest Packs: Wizard and Dwarf Quest Pack

[toco]

Is is interesting to take old knowledge I had, and combine them with all this new info.

For instance, 10 year ago Don Kueker (artist) gave me some background info about how he worked on the HeroQuest project with Milton Bradley. I didn't read much into it when he said that he was only ever involved in one expansion. But now with the info from Luca we known that this was the way MB handled the expansions. One designer per expansion. So, I can also image they contacted artists for each specific expansion.

Another detail are the concept sketches Don sent me. There's a giant spider (looks like an ant), ogre-centaur and minotaur. Grrrreat drawings. But now we know WHY they were not used: they would take too much space on the plastic sprue. Leaving no room for the smaller miniatures.
HOWEVER: when Rodney SkyKnight finally showed us his 4-ups on FB, there WERE prototypes of the minotaur and giant spider (and ratmen, also by Don)... This is contradicting the manuscripts of Luca... But I guess nothing was final, so it's perfectly possible for the giant miniautres to exist, but were not intended to go into production.

ps: I think it was a genius move from MB when they bought the plastic injection moulds from GW and decided to use only one for each expansion set. Injection moulds are expensive nowadays, I can image they had cost a fortune 30 years ago so MB had to use the in clever way. It also allowed designer to be very creative in reusing them separately from each other.

[Kurgan]

Good insights, Toco. Are there more images on facebook that we haven't seen that could be posted here?

[Litpixels]

I'm glad this made it on here. I wanted to purchase it myself but missed out. I was almost going to beg for the info of the person who did buy it. I was paranoid it might not make it online and it would be lost forever. But here it is. Glad it worked out and that you are sharing it.
I use Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for work and am very proficient. So I can layout the adventure booklet, cards, box work, whatever. So I'm happy to help if you need layout work.

[toco]

Good insights, Toco. Are there more images on facebook that we haven't seen that could be posted here?

I still have some unpublished preliminary sketches that are not shown previously. I will post them later. No new miniatures, just different versions of the box cover for Elf Quest.

[lestodante]

Another detail are the concept sketches Don sent me. There's a giant spider (looks like an ant), ogre-centaur and minotaur. Grrrreat drawings. But now we know WHY they were not used: they would take too much space on the plastic sprue. Leaving no room for the smaller miniatures.
HOWEVER: when Rodney SkyKnight finally showed us his 4-ups on FB, there WERE prototypes of the minotaur and giant spider (and ratmen, also by Don)... This is contradicting the manuscripts of Luca... But I guess nothing was final, so it's perfectly possible for the giant miniautres to exist, but were not intended to go into production.

Giant Spiders and Minotaurs are part of the Wizard QP, two pieces each of them. Minotaur should be a medium size monster, almost like a Yeti or a Polar Warbear.
The only one really missing is the Centaur.

[Kurgan]

Good insights, Toco. Are there more images on facebook that we haven't seen that could be posted here?

I still have some unpublished preliminary sketches that are not shown previously. I will post them later. No new miniatures, just different versions of the box cover for Elf Quest.

Toco, I would love to see those (and I'm sure everyone else here would too)!

If you happen to post them by tomorrow afternoon I can cover them in my next stream on Twitch.

[therealshrek]

The last time this came to light, a long long time ago... I remember an article somewhere stating that proto types for all of the minis were made.
No idea who would be the person to talk to, to at least get images of those.

[moktira]

The last time this came to light, a long long time ago... I remember an article somewhere stating that proto types for all of the minis were made.
No idea who would be the person to talk to, to at least get images of those.

Those sculpts can be found here:
https://myheroquest.blogspot.com/?m=1

[HispaZargon]

Good insights, Toco. Are there more images on facebook that we haven't seen that could be posted here?

I still have some unpublished preliminary sketches that are not shown previously. I will post them later. No new miniatures, just different versions of the box cover for Elf Quest.

Nice to see you in this thread, Toco. Your knowledge and past efforts in this titanic task are so appreciated by us. This project would have never existed without your investigation for years. Thank you!

[Poctuk]

Excellent work all. This is in great hands. Very exciting!