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Postby Gaeldeth » July 7th, 2013, 6:00 am

Has anyone used Hirst art molds?
Looking at getting a few for floors and walls but they rather expensive and don't wanna buy them and find out there crap :p

Also if you have then can you show any pics of finished bits and the molds that were used.
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Re: hirst art molds

Postby chaoticprime » July 7th, 2013, 6:47 am

I have sixty or so of these molds. They are of utmost quality. If you want pics of them in action, go to the HirstArts forums or browse the Projects area of the HirstArts website.

Here's a gallery of some boards that I made using HirstArts bricks that I reclaimed from older projects that I made up to five years ago.

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Re: hirst art molds

Postby Goblin-King » July 7th, 2013, 10:55 am

Don't own any, but from what I have seen and their HUUUUGE popularity I think it's a safe bet they are good quality.

And like CP said, check their forums. Some amazing stuff in there.
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Postby Sjeng » July 7th, 2013, 11:08 am

They are amazing. I'm constantly in awe of all the stuff people make with them...
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Re: hirst art molds

Postby Gaeldeth » July 7th, 2013, 11:52 am

I think I'm just put off a bit by the price tag on them and trying to figure out exactly what molds I need for my use so no money wasted on getting wrong ones.

Same as most I've seen I am wanting this to make dungeon walls, floors and doors for a custom hero quest board. Any advise on what mold would help me would be greatly apprechiated. Thanks
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Re: hirst art molds

Postby chaoticprime » July 7th, 2013, 1:54 pm

Gaeldeth wrote:I think I'm just put off a bit by the price tag on them and trying to figure out exactly what molds I need for my use so no money wasted on getting wrong ones.

Same as most I've seen I am wanting this to make dungeon walls, floors and doors for a custom hero quest board. Any advise on what mold would help me would be greatly apprechiated. Thanks


Here is your shopping list. Doing things cheap is the only way I can afford to have any fun, so this is not a blatant recommendation, its a testimonial essaying which molds that I have personally used with great success. The molds are incredibly precise, and take most of the work out of building good-looking terrain.

A Note About Doors: I have experimented with using custom-made doors, but always wind up falling back into using the originals. The amount of work involved is arduous, beyond even dozens of castings of floor-tile molds. The most ideal doors take multiple castings of many parts, and are difficult to level off so that they stand upright unless you take the utmost care in their making.

Cracked Floor Tiles (Mold #203) $29.00
Firstly, this mold is dead-on for Heroquest's most oft-used tile-form, the hallways. Also, its a great tile for fantasy anything. I have made thousands of tiles from the two of these that I own.

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Worn Floor Tiles (Mold #206) $29.00
If you own a miter box and a razor saw, this is the only floor mold you'll need (but that would be hard). You can use miter box to custom-carve each square--its not that difficult to do.

Stone Arch Wall (Mold #88) $34.00
This guy, here, is exactly what you need if you want walls and a door for a board-game. It was designed to be used to make Dungeon Twister tiles. It has a simple door, does not require much piece-assembly, and it is, without a doubt, the easiest door to get flush with the wall pieces. Here is a tut by Bruce on it: http://www.hirstarts.com/tips25/tips25.html

Flagstone Floor Tile (Mold #260) $29.00
This one can best account for the flagstone squares on hte HQ board, which are the second most-used.

Three of the above molds will get you your Heroquest board.

Must-buy list of supplies:

Plaster-of-Paris (You can use better materials--dental plaster like hydrocal white or Merlin's Magic, but they are really expensive, and they're not that much better than regular plaster-of-paris if you take care of your possessions)
3.5" Paint Scraper
Bottle of Jet-Dry
Tacky Glue (and nothing else)
Plastic basin (for soaking molds between castings; add a squirt of Jet-Dry to the water)
Plastic spoons
Plastic cups
PAPER TOWELS
Dedicated trash can
A SHARP hobby knife (have extra blades--they dull quickly and a dull blade can frustrate the simplest jobs)
A "right" angle, at least 1" tall, though preferably taller than you want your walls to be. Legos work well.

If modular, use 2mm or 3mm foam rubber sheets as mounting.
If redacted, buy an overlarge sheet of something flat and sturdy. Buy cheap, wooden molding from a hobby store. Mold the right angle, and build the board within the molding.
Image This here is a board I started (and abandoned) using molding. I did not use Hirst blocks, rather these 3mm ones made for Heroquest by this couple in Germany. The bricks were not flush together, so I basically wasted $100 on those German molds, and another $200 on resin that my stupid-ass thought would be worth it.

Never use soap on your molds, it films up on them, and ruins their next casting, no matter what.

Basically, fill up 1/4 of a cup with water. Add powder a spoonful at a time; do not stir, only pour. Whenever you add powder to the water, you will see the powder osmose. You will have added enough powder when you can clearly distinguish the accumulated powder just below the surface of the water--basically, once it stops sinking into the water after you dump it in.

Stir with a separate spoon until pancake-battery in viscosity. Line up the molds you want to cast. Add spoonfulls of mixture into the cavities of the molds--you can take your time. Each time you put the spoon back inside the cup, stir once before taking more mixture out. You want to slightly overfill each cavity.

Take the paint-scraper and sort of tap the top of the mold a few times to shake out air bubbles. Then smooth over the tops--sometimes water will separate from the cavities and will need to be wiped off. Take excess mixture scraped off of each mold, and add it to the next--you don't want to waste usable resources.

Nurse them for the first couple minutes--keep scraping them until they are flush and perfect-looking.

Wait.

When they look dry (about 20 mins) tap the back of a brick with your fingernail, it that does not leave a mark, they're ready to pull.

The molds are flexible, so bend them away from bricks to remove them. If you try to pull the bricks out, they may break.

The bricks won't be very useful for hard work for about 12 hours. Set them out in the sun or something; or wherever, so they can fully cure. You can bake them in the oven for fast curing, but it makes them stink.


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Re: hirst art molds

Postby Gaeldeth » July 7th, 2013, 2:21 pm

Chaotic thank you that's basicly everything I needed to know and more I needed to know and didn't realise yet lol

For my walls I was thinking of using the fieldstone as I really like the look of them. And also theCavern Accessory Mold #85.

Basic plan of attack is the set it out the exact same as hq board but mount the walls on a floor tile and use accessories from mold #85 along the edges of the walls.
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Re: hirst art molds

Postby chaoticprime » July 7th, 2013, 2:35 pm

Gaeldeth wrote:Chaotic thank you that's basicly everything I needed to know and more I needed to know and didn't realise yet lol

For my walls I was thinking of using the fieldstone as I really like the look of them. And also theCavern Accessory Mold #85.

Basic plan of attack is the set it out the exact same as hq board but mount the walls on a floor tile and use accessories from mold #85 along the edges of the walls.


The fieldstone walls are really weighty and eat up craploads of plaster. They work best in standing structures, though I have used them for otherwise more often than not. Walls are not that great, you'll probably find out. They're usually in the way during gameplay; you'll spend more time setting them up and keeping them in array than preening on how good they looked after you finished making them. Their 0.5" thickness also makes them hard to use for HQ--you'll have to get some graph paper and totally redesign the board.

Also, #85 is one of my overflow molds--meaning one that I use to get rid of extra mixture whenever I making castings.
In this photo, way in the back left, you can see a black cabinet with clear plastic shelves with little white bits glued onto them. Those white bits are small hirst objects, mainly from #85, that I have stockpiled over the last few years. Not all of them will be awesome quality (laziness), but if you want more than you will ever need for the price of shipping, you can have that.

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The really badass Heroquest board on HirstArts' forums that uses the fieldstone walls also uses 1.5" floor-tiles. In that case, they're fine for HQ. But if you use the regular 1" tiles, I must insist you reconsider.


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Re: hirst art molds

Postby Gaeldeth » July 7th, 2013, 2:45 pm

Yes the one with 1.5 tiles I have seen a pic of when I was round my mates and that's what made me want them walls.
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Re: hirst art molds

Postby chaoticprime » July 7th, 2013, 2:50 pm

Gaeldeth wrote:Yes the one with 1.5 tiles I have seen a pic of when I was round my mates and that's what made me want them walls.


At the very least I can save you some dollars on #85. Accessory molds just don't repay very well. Also, I have a mold I made of this: http://www.hirstarts.com/cavern/descent043.jpg that I would happily lend to you for as long as you need, as the #85 door basically sucks. The door mold is the whole door and archway, too. You also have to lay something heavy and flat on top of the mold, after filling it, to level the bottom.


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