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Who is the Stone Hunter

Posted:
December 7th, 2011, 4:48 pm
by Ethica
In the EU/UK rules there is a quest called The Stone Hunter. This is the same as The Lost Wizard in the yankee book and Karlen is called Wardoz (it seems there's not much difference except Wardoz is worth 66 gold less than Karlen for some reason).
The chaos warriors are made out of stone, but who is the Stone Hunter? Is it Karlen/Wardoz? Does it make sense to anyone?
Re: Who is the Stone Hunter

Posted:
December 7th, 2011, 6:22 pm
by tasoe
I tried to make sense of it but I don't think there is any!
Don't expect any answer from anyone other than "it doesn't make any sense at all!".
Re: Who is the Stone Hunter

Posted:
December 7th, 2011, 8:42 pm
by torilen
Yeah...that makes no sense to me at all. Hmmm....I find it so very interesting that a company like MB,
with a game that seems to have been so popular in its time (and still is) would put so little effort into
certain portions of the publishing.
What a shame.
Re: Who is the Stone Hunter

Posted:
December 8th, 2011, 9:50 am
by Goblin-King
Reading it through you can't really make any sense.
I have however always assumed (out of the blue without any basis in anything) that Karlen is the Stone Hunter, pursuing knowledge of stone magic.
Or that he kinda was a stone wizard before he turned to chaos.
But yeah, it is kinda random...
Re: Who is the Stone Hunter

Posted:
November 24th, 2018, 9:41 am
by j_dean80
I was thinking of giving Wardoz/Karlen the Earth Element Spells as he is a Wizard but has no Spells mentioned.
Re: Who is the Stone Hunter

Posted:
November 24th, 2018, 10:02 am
by Stoner81
j_dean80 wrote:I was thinking of giving Wardoz/Karlen the Earth Element Spells as he is a Wizard but has no Spells mentioned.
That would be pretty cool and make sense!
Stoner81.
Re: Who is the Stone Hunter

Posted:
November 24th, 2018, 10:09 am
by Anderas
He also needs to be presented in a different context. That little room there makes him a one turn death.
So, bigger room, couple guards, falling block trap in the front of the model, earth spells, here we go.

Re: Who is the Stone Hunter

Posted:
November 24th, 2018, 10:19 am
by lestodante
Karlen is the Stone Hunter!! It is his nickname because he was in search (and found it) of a magic stone and experimenting with it, but the magic stone combined with the chaos powers sucked his vital energy and generated the 4 Stone Chaos Warriors.
Originally they were normal stone statues adorning his hall but the life energy of Karlen was split and converged in the 4 statues bringing them to life and turning Karlen into a zombie.
In the US version Karlen also melted some gold and mixed the liquid gold with some magic ingredients plus a bit of dust scratched from the magical stone to create the misteryous potion that can turn a hero into a stone statue.
Fortunately for that hero he was a bit greedy and didn't use all of the coins but only 56 pieces or the effect could be stronger and irreversible, instead it only lasts 5 turns with no more negative effects for the hero. This explains while in the US version you will only find 144 gold coins instead of 200 like in the EU version.
It is not necessary to give him the Stone Spells, they are just defensive spells. What is the use for Karlen of Heal Body or Pass through Rock? Also he has 0 mind points because he is a zombie and not a wizard anymore so he now has less than the required 4 body points to be a magic-user.
Re: Who is the Stone Hunter

Posted:
November 24th, 2018, 10:44 am
by j_dean80
Pass Through Rock would make for an interesting chase. Heal Body would work on a Stone Chaos Warrior. Rock Skin is already obvious.
Re: Who is the Stone Hunter

Posted:
November 24th, 2018, 1:25 pm
by Maurice76
In the Dutch version, the text for the EW mentions that Karlen is a soulless zombie, consumed by Chaos magic. As such, I doubt he can use any magic at all and by all means is simply just that: a soulless zombie.