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Sir Ragnar or Sir Manfred?

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Re: Sir Ragnar or Sir Manfred?

Postby wallydubbs » January 18th, 2019, 7:46 am

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Well research is something I'm generally good at. But there's no positive nationalistic explanation; for all we know, the guy responsible for the translation from English to Italian had an uncle named Manfred who recently died, and he managed to slip in a little namesake momento into the game. I wouldn't be surprised by humanistic explanation...


I have always enjoyed the vast world of knowledge, the joy of learning something new. History was one class in school I never had a problem passing because I found it fascinating. To bad real life archaeology isn't anything like Indiana Jones.


Yeah, but half the stuff you learn in history class is pure indoctrination. The more important details are left out and a true scholar needs to look outside textbook sources for reason.
There's the fabled story of Columbus discovering America; first they tell us in kindergarten that he wanted to prove the Earth wasn't flat (good for you if you want to put faith above fear), but then you find out he was just looking for an Eastern passage to trade with India; but then if you dig deeper you find that Columbus was a member of the Knights of Christ (formerly Templar) and his father-in-law was supplying him with maps that already depicted the existence of America.

Why was Andrew Jackson the first President with an assassination attempt against him? School books fail to tell you about his battle with Nicholas Biddle and the 2nd Bank of America.

What are the prime reasons for World War I? Germany was bypassing all the British financial trade routes with the formation of the Baghdad Railway, rendering Britain's monopoly over the Suez Canal redundant. France and Britain would then form a blockade over African ports that were hotspots for Germany financially.

knightkrawler wrote:arcaeology isn't like science either, unfortunately....


And don't get me started on Archeaology; Graham Hancock, Robery Bouval, Robert Scotch and John Anthony West opened more doors for real archeology then Zahi Hawass or any other contemporary egyptologist.


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Re: Sir Ragnar or Sir Manfred?

Postby benvoliothefirst » January 18th, 2019, 8:46 am

This is as good a place as any to point out that everyone here can likely appreciate the History Channel's "Vikings" show, which while probably not even remotely accurate, WILL give you some great inspiration for names.

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Re: Sir Ragnar or Sir Manfred?

Postby Thor-in » January 18th, 2019, 9:09 am

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Yeah, but half the stuff you learn in history class is pure indoctrination. The more important details are left out and a true scholar needs to look outside textbook sources for reason.
There's the fabled story of Columbus discovering America; first they tell us in kindergarten that he wanted to prove the Earth wasn't flat (good for you if you want to put faith above fear), but then you find out he was just looking for an Eastern passage to trade with India; but then if you dig deeper you find that Columbus was a member of the Knights of Christ (formerly Templar) and his father-in-law was supplying him with maps that already depicted the existence of America.


Very true, and on that note the Vikings (Norseman) actually landed in Canada first for farming as I recall. They have found Viking artifacts on the cost of Canada dating back to before Columbus. So Columbus finding "America" is completely wrong, he actually found the Caribbean first if I'm remembering correctly.
And don't get started on the Knights Templar, one of the biggest cults ever reported in history. The church wanted them to re-take Jerusalem, but once they lost their foothold in the Holy Land (around 1300) the church basically turned it's back on them and had them arrested. Don't get me wrong, they did some marvels things. Like the first records of being a bank for travelers. You could deposit your money at one of there temples and they would write you a letter in code, then you could go to a different temple and withdraw money, then they would change the code on your paper. All so then they could make money and travelers wouldn't need to travel long distances with a large sack of money.

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And don't get me started on Archeaology; Graham Hancock, Robery Bouval, Robert Scotch and John Anthony West opened more doors for real archeology then Zahi Hawass or any other contemporary egyptologist.


It's funny you bring that up, I have been listening to documentaries on Egypt lately. From The Great Spinx of Giza, to the Alexandra Liberty, to the Great Pyramids.
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Re: Sir Ragnar or Sir Manfred?

Postby Thor-in » January 18th, 2019, 9:27 am

benvoliothefirst wrote:This is as good a place as any to point out that everyone here can likely appreciate the History Channel's "Vikings" show, which while probably not even remotely accurate, WILL give you some great inspiration for names.

I now have a witch NPC named "Hagerthe Christie."


Believe it or not, most of the characters in the show have a place in history somewhere. The story line is completely wrong and made up but loosely based on "real people".

Ragnar and King Ecbert never meet in history, but according to the poems King Aelle did kill Ragnar. Which is why Ragnar's sons created the Great Heathen Army.

Rollo wasn't Ragnar's brother, but he was a Viking. That ended up as the first ruler of Normandy in France.
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Re: Sir Ragnar or Sir Manfred?

Postby wallydubbs » January 18th, 2019, 10:46 am

Thor-in wrote:And don't get started on the Knights Templar, one of the biggest cults ever reported in history. The church wanted them to re-take Jerusalem, but once they lost their foothold in the Holy Land (around 1300) the church basically turned it's back on them and had them arrested. Don't get me wrong, they did some marvels things. Like the first records of being a bank for travelers. You could deposit your money at one of there temples and they would write you a letter in code, then you could go to a different temple and withdraw money, then they would change the code on your paper. All so then they could make money and travelers wouldn't need to travel long distances with a large sack of money.


Oh, I could write essays on the Templars. They were the Dark Age's equivalent of modern CIA, but they occasionally helped religious refugees (Cathars) instead of covering everything up.
If they're the CIA, I guess the KGB would be the Order of the Hashashins... oh and now we're in the realm of Assassin's Creed, minus legitimacy.
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Re: Sir Ragnar or Sir Manfred?

Postby Sotiris » January 20th, 2019, 5:13 pm

In the Greek quest book is also Sir Ragnar (Σερ Ράγκναρ).
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Re: Sir Ragnar or Sir Manfred?

Postby angeldeath » January 20th, 2019, 7:33 pm

Yes in Greek is sir Ragnar and tomorrow i will check and tell you about japanese version
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Re: Sir Ragnar or Sir Manfred?

Postby lestodante » January 21st, 2019, 8:45 am

In Japanese version there is a different story and a princess is kidnapped instead of Sir Ragnar


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Re: Sir Ragnar or Sir Manfred?

Postby wallydubbs » January 21st, 2019, 9:25 am

Oh, that is such a Cliché!


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Re: Sir Ragnar or Sir Manfred?

Postby knightkrawler » January 21st, 2019, 12:24 pm

wallydubbs wrote:Oh, that is such a Cliché!


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