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Re: Spear user

Postby soppathekeitto » November 19th, 2013, 6:03 pm

The Road Warrior wrote:
Goblin-King wrote:Well, my reasoning for wanting to beef up throw is that other classes can just get the crossbow which is free to use and grants 3 wd.
Sacrificing movement (which is supposed to represent running to throw the spear) is a way to make it potentially more powerful, but at a cost.


I agree, for a spear throwing skill to work, it has to be better than a crossbow.
If sacrificing the movement represents running to throw the spear why not make the Amazon move the squares first to use the skill.
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When throwing a spear immediately after moving you may roll one additional combat die for every 4 squares moved.

I'd probably also add in a rule for the spear breaking every now and again. Maybe every time three or more identical shields and no skulls are thrown the spear hits the wall with such force that it breaks.

That's just the way I would do this :2cents:

And welcome to the forum Soup. It's always nice to see new ideas. |_P


Thanx i like the idea about spear breaking and or even stuck to corpse but that point i got problem what if the spear stuck and i got enemy near let say cirle me (after the spear throw then enemy closed up to me) how to i fight ? and i cant retvive the spear out of the corpse..(you can get pack the spear if you go next to the corpse and etc. )

and i was thinkin (allthought my wife sayed that can you use the spear against undead ? ) you cant use spear against undead or so.
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Re: Spear user

Postby soppathekeitto » November 19th, 2013, 6:11 pm

Trowing 2xD6 movement poinst can or have to ? i mean when i say i use the trohwing i HAV TO USE movement points to use the skill OR i CAN USE movement points to gain more WD points ?

i think you have to use movement points to even use the skill. its your turn you say i Use the Skill Trowing roll the 2xD6 you get 7 ok so (if we go 4 :roll4: on the D6 is 1WD :skull:) + the basic WD ammount 2 :skull: :skull:
basically :roll3: :roll4: = :skull: + :skull: :skull: and :roll6: :roll6: = :skull: :whiteshield: :blackshield: + :skull: :skull:
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Re: Spear user

Postby The Road Warrior » November 19th, 2013, 6:40 pm

soppathekeitto wrote:... i got problem what if the spear stuck and i got enemy near let say cirle me (after the spear throw then enemy closed up to me) how to i fight ? and i cant retvive the spear out of the corpse..(you can get pack the spear if you go next to the corpse and etc. )

The spear only changes the number of combat dice you use when attacking. So if an enemy attacks you after you have thrown your spear you would still defend with the same number of dice.
You could then move and get the spear back on your next go.

If I was playing as the amazon I would make sure I had 2 or 3 spears at the start of the quest or an extra weapon like the short sword.

soppathekeitto wrote:and i was thinkin (allthought my wife sayed that can you use the spear against undead ? ) you cant use spear against undead or so.



I have never heard of this rule before, you can use a spear against the undead.
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Re: Spear user

Postby Malcadon » November 19th, 2013, 7:51 pm

Lets see....

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You are an Amazon of the Lost Forest. You are a light and agile warrior-woman, who is skilled with a spear. You are also a skilled herbalist, with the knowledge of to treat minor injuries.

Attack Dice: 2 Combat Dice
Defense Dice: 2 Combat Dice
Movement Dice: 2 Red Dice
Body Points: 6
Mind Points: 4

Starting Weapon: Spear
Starting Armor: None

You benefit form some special rules:

Spear
This weapon allows you to attack diagonally, and may be thrown (see Spear Recovery, below)

Special Die
What attacking, one Combat Die must be of a different color or with different markings, but have the same basic effect as any other Combat Die in battle. Some abilities are triggered if you roll a Skull, White Shield and/or Black Shield with that one special die. If an effect is triggered by a Skull in an attack, then it would still count as a hit. The following abilities (namely Spear Recovery and Double Strike) note what symbol is needed to trigger an effect.

Spear Recovery
You use a tether to recall your spear. If you roll a White Shield on your special die when you throw your spear, the tether snaps and the spear is lost. Otherwise, the spear returns to your hand. This ability only works with spears. If you loose your spear and have no other weapon to fall back on, you attack with 1 Combat Die, with a White Shield counting as a hit.

Double Strike
In hand-to-hand combat, you may make an extra followup attack. If you roll a Skull on your special die when you may make a second attack on the same enemy. This maybe done with any weapon, but not with throwing or ranged attacks. The second attack does not count as an action.

Healing Herbs
As an action, the Amazon may treat herself or an adjacent Hero. Roll a Combat Die. If you roll a White Shield, 1 Body Point is recovered. A Hero may not recover more then what their maximum Body Points allow.

Usable Weapons: Dagger, Staff, Hand Axe, Shortsword, Spear, Crossbow, Broadsword, Longsword.
Usable Armor: Helmet, Shield*, Bracers*, Chainmail.

*You may use a Shield or Bracers, but not both at once.
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Re: Spear user

Postby TMU » November 20th, 2013, 12:27 am

Makes sense, not over complicated. I do like it after all. :D Nice wording Malcadon.
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Re: Spear user

Postby chaoticprime » November 20th, 2013, 12:43 am

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Postby TMU » November 20th, 2013, 1:29 am

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That looks more like a dwarf to me ;)
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Re: Spear user

Postby chaoticprime » November 20th, 2013, 2:34 am

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Re: Spear user

Postby Malcadon » November 20th, 2013, 3:02 am

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Damn, someone is going to loose an eye with that figure!


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Re: Spear user

Postby soppathekeitto » November 20th, 2013, 4:55 am

Special Die
What attacking, one Combat Die must be of a different color or with different markings, but have the same basic effect as any other Combat Die in battle. Some abilities are triggered if you roll a Skull, White Shield and/or Black Shield with that one special die. If an effect is triggered by a Skull in an attack, then it would still count as a hit. The following abilities (namely Spear Recovery and Double Strike) note what symbol is needed to trigger an effect.


Spear Recovery
You use a tether to recall your spear. If you roll a White Shield on your special die when you throw your spear, the tether snaps and the spear is lost. Otherwise, the spear returns to your hand. This ability only works with spears. If you loose your spear and have no other weapon to fall back on, you attack with 1 Combat Die, with a White Shield counting as a hit.

so meaning like this :skull: :skull: + Image . You got the kill and spear back but if you got :skull: :skull: + Image tether snaps and you hav to go recovery that spear your self from the corpse. And recovery it from corpse or Wall that counts as action

Double Strike
In hand-to-hand combat, you may make an extra followup attack. If you roll a Skull on your special die when you may make a second attack on the same enemy. This maybe done with any weapon, but not with throwing or ranged attacks. The second attack does not count as an action.

:skull: :skull: + Image if you got staff or other weapon
:skull: + Image dagger etc.

*There is limition of the Double attack skill i wrote it can be use only 2 times

Healing Herbs
As an action, the Amazon may treat herself or an adjacent Hero. Roll a Combat Die. If you roll a White Shield, 1 Body Point is recovered. A Hero may not recover more then what their maximum Body Points allow.


I whas thinking limitation to 3-4 time to used it or she can use it like TEMPLAR finding them when you try to find treasure insted of deck you get one herb (need 3 to make healing etc. ) but it is not automatically that you get herb :roll1: :roll2: :roll3: you get herb and :roll4: :roll5: :roll6: you get treasure card..

Usable Weapons: Dagger, Staff, Hand Axe, Shortsword, Spear, Crossbow, Broadsword, Longsword.
Usable Armor: Helmet, Shield*, Bracers*, Chainmail.

*You may use a Shield or Bracers, but not both at once.
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Yeah, I had to Neff some of the odds, or else she would dominate the game. Being able to strike twice is a tremendous advantage, as well as being able to heal without limit. These would make for great Skills, that Heroes could earn by winning Quests.

There is limition of the Double attack skill i wrote it can be use only 2 times

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Heh my wife told me WHY WHY half naked go FULL naked that costume dont make any sense etc. :gargoyle:
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