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wallydubbs wrote:The fact that they specify "Diagnolly Adjacent" implies that diagnol is a form of adjacent. Crossbows are thus restricted from attacking an adjacent target.
wallydubbs wrote:In some quest packs (can't remember which one right now), there are specifications of some monsters being able to attack diagonally in the quest notes.
Also, if I'm recalling correctly, in the component section of the Elf Quest pack, I believe it says the Giant Wolf is able to attack diagonally.
Maurice76 wrote:Taking a small step back, it's pretty clear that when they designed the rule with regards to adjacency, they actually meant to talk about other creatures within melee range. For a spell touch attack (such as Chill), that means the target has to be within short melee range, i.e. in any of the four tiles surrounding the tile the caster is on, which share a common border.
Firing a Bow or Crossbow is pretty hard while you're being slapped silly by the melee weapon of an opponent. This means the four tiles in short melee range and I would rule that this also includes the four diagonally adjacent tiles (what I would call the long melee range), provided any of those creatures there has the ability to make a long melee attack. You could say that skeletons have a long melee attack with their scythes, but orcs with their swords don't. So yes, according to me you can fire your crossbow at any target, as long as no enemy is capable of plummeting you with its weapon in melee combat.
the Instruction Booklet, p.15 wrote:. . . daggers and crossbows are special weapons due to their ability to hit a monster from a distance.
Clarification: On any square grid board there are 8 squares that touch a given square that are considered adjacent. Within the World of HeroQuest the four squares that are orthogonally adjacent, sharing sides, are referred to as adjacent and the four squares that are diagonally adjacent, sharing corners, are referred to as diagonal. All eight squares collectively, both the four adjacent squares and the four diagonal squares, are referred to as the surrounding squares.
This spell causes 1 Body Point of damage to any one Hero or monster adjacent to the spellcaster (though not diagonally adjacent). The victim cannot defend against the attack.
This spell causes 1 Body Point of damage to any monster adjacent to the spellcaster (though not diagonally adjacent). The victim cannot defend against the attack.
You'd think the Frozen Horror, another large monster, could cast a Chill spell diagonally for the same reason, but the wording of the spell prevents it.
Bareheaded Warrior wrote:Personally…Clarification: On any square grid board there are 8 squares that touch a given square that are considered adjacent. Within the World of HeroQuest the four squares that are orthogonally adjacent, sharing sides, are referred to as adjacent and the four squares that are diagonally adjacent, sharing corners, are referred to as diagonal. All eight squares collectively, both the four adjacent squares and the four diagonal squares, are referred to as the surrounding squares.
For me the Crossbow (and any other ranged weapon) cannot be used if you have a foe in any of the squares surrounding you, whereas a Longsword can be used in that situation and against any foe in any of the squares surrounding you.
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The Halberd introduced in this Quest Pack seems pointless (pun, accidental but I’m going to claim it as intended) as it is just a two-handed version of the longsword, maybe it’s a cheaper version…but I digress as usual so back to the actual point of this topic…
I agree, but at the same time I don't think the quest creators put all that much thought into it. We all know Frozen Horror was rushed through. So I gotta draw a distinction on the range of Crossbowmen with the term "Diagonally adjacent."You'd think the Frozen Horror, another large monster, could cast a Chill spell diagonally for the same reason, but the wording of the spell prevents it.
I agree, if it is a touch spell then it should state that it can only be used against targets that you can touch i.e. adjacent UNLESS you are a large monster that can reach diagonal targets also.
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