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In the US rules crossbows definitely can't be used against diagonally adjacent targets. It would make long swords pointless because they cost the same as crossbows. I suppose the long sword can be used against directly adjacent targets as well but it was confirmed in The Frozen Horror. Halberdiers cost the same as crossbowmen but crossbowman can attack directly adjacent targets. This would definitely make halbirdiers redundant. I don't think diagonally adjacent is supposed to count as ranged in either version.SirRick wrote:However both cards do mention that the spell cannot be used on creatures that are diagonally adjacent, which opens a whole new can of worms, such as if a crossbow cam be used on a diagonally adjacent creature (crossbow argument topic).
Gold Bearer wrote:In the US rules crossbows definitely can't be used against diagonally adjacent targets. It would make long swords pointless because they cost the same as crossbows. I suppose the long sword can be used against directly adjacent targets as well but it was confirmed in The Frozen Horror. Halberdiers cost the same as crossbowmen but crossbowman can attack directly adjacent targets. This would definitely make halbirdiers redundant. I don't think diagonally adjacent is supposed to count as ranged in either version.SirRick wrote:However both cards do mention that the spell cannot be used on creatures that are diagonally adjacent, which opens a whole new can of worms, such as if a crossbow cam be used on a diagonally adjacent creature (crossbow argument topic).
SirRick wrote:I was reading through the catds on this site for this expansion when i noticed domething odd about the spell Chill. The spell card mentions any one hero or monster adjacent to the spell caster. The "any one" part of the phrase leads me to believe it only means one target, but the "hero or monster" part seems as if the spell should hit all figures adjacent to the caster.
SirRick wrote:Also the spell scroll is worded differently and says that any monster adjacent to the caster takes damage, which seems as if all monsters should take damage, but heroes are not mentioned on the scroll.
However both cards do mention that the spell cannot be used on creatures that are diagonally adjacent, which opens a whole new can of worms, such as if a crossbow cam be used on a diagonally adjacent creature (crossbow argument topic).
Gold Bearer wrote:...I the US rules crossbows definitely can't be used against diagonally adjacent targets. It would make long swords pointless because they cost the same as crossbows....
The Admiral wrote:Adjacent is defined quite clearly in the rules. Diagonal is not adjacent. I agree with your Longsword/Halberdier discrepancies, but they do not change the definition of adjacent.
knightkrawler wrote:The Admiral wrote:Adjacent is defined quite clearly in the rules. Diagonal is not adjacent. I agree with your Longsword/Halberdier discrepancies, but they do not change the definition of adjacent.
EU 2nd edition rules define from what spaces you can attack under the regular circumstances.
They also define how a figure cannot move diagonally.
But the word adjacent is never used, so there simply is no definition for it, so you cannot say that diagonal isn't adjacent.
If you find the definition in EU 1st or 2nd edition, let me know....
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