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Re: Appearance of Orcs (and other Goblinoids)

Postby knightkrawler » August 9th, 2015, 4:19 am

And yet it remains all about point of view. Convenient that you think human.
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Re: Appearance of Orcs (and other Goblinoids)

Postby Anderas » August 9th, 2015, 7:37 am

It's not about "incorrect thinking". It is about incorrect use of language.

You just don't do this:

"Hello Sir. Me and my men, we are currently in a conflict where both sides happen to do bad things to each other; because; that's just the way the world is. I would be glad if you could join my side instead of his side, for 100 gold. You'll sign a contract that you work for me, which includes the use of the word 'evil' for any reference to the other side. Afterwards, it would be nice if you do not only take my gold and fight, but also take every gold you find on the other side, in order to deal as much damage as possible. It might be even more gold than i am able to pay to you, but after your signature you belong to me, so that's ok."

You rather do that:

"The evil Warlord Ulag and his foul offspring Grak are hiding inside a mountain hide. I pay 100 gold to every adventurer who is brave enough to enter and kill Ulag, and I allow you to keep everything you find in there!"


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Re: Appearance of Orcs (and other Goblinoids)

Postby knightkrawler » August 9th, 2015, 8:59 am

Makes Mentor evil, doesn't it?
I'm sure Ulag is just fighting for some land to take back from evil imperial men and dwarfs for his derided people, choosing the only partner seeming able to make any promises - Morcar - but of course this is a very reluctant alliance.
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Re: Appearance of Orcs (and other Goblinoids)

Postby Anderas » August 9th, 2015, 9:42 am

Bah yes,
i am convinced that Mentor is the third unknown person behind Morcar and Zargon. His two minions are just a good distraction from the real activities.


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Re: Appearance of Orcs (and other Goblinoids)

Postby whitebeard » August 9th, 2015, 10:08 am

Anderas wrote:It's not about "incorrect thinking". It is about incorrect use of language.

You just don't do this:

"Hello Sir. Me and my men, we are currently in a conflict where both sides happen to do bad things to each other; because; that's just the way the world is. I would be glad if you could join my side instead of his side, for 100 gold. You'll sign a contract that you work for me, which includes the use of the word 'evil' for any reference to the other side. Afterwards, it would be nice if you do not only take my gold and fight, but also take every gold you find on the other side, in order to deal as much damage as possible. It might be even more gold than i am able to pay to you, but after your signature you belong to me, so that's ok."

You rather do that:

"The evil Warlord Ulag and his foul offspring Grak are hiding inside a mountain hide. I pay 100 gold to every adventurer who is brave enough to enter and kill Ulag, and I allow you to keep everything you find in there!"


This is ridiculous. If elves captured an Orc for interrogation, they would ask it pointed questions then dispatch it. If there was nothing worth asking, it would have been killed quickly or allowed to flee in terror.

If orcs captured an elf, they would torture it cruelly even if they had no questions to ask. The race is dominated by personalities that revel in inflicting anguish upon others. They prefer to take by force what they need from those weaker than themselves. Born into that society, you will be killed (as weak) if you chose otherwise. And eventually found out, if you simply played along. The race is therefor evil and one is justified in dispatching an Orc on sight... Even if it turned out to be a rebel outcast. Oops!

The cat is not evil when it plays with the mouse. It just cannot possibly understand what it is doing. Most people do not view wolves and sharks as evil... Just dangerous. Which is exactly what they are. An informed mouse society would also see the cat this way.
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Re: Appearance of Orcs (and other Goblinoids)

Postby Goblin-King » August 9th, 2015, 11:38 am

whitebeard wrote:Most people do not view wolves and sharks as evil... Just dangerous. Which is exactly what they are.

Are you high?! Sharks are freakin' evil!


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Re: Appearance of Orcs (and other Goblinoids)

Postby knightkrawler » August 9th, 2015, 11:44 am

Yeah, they eat little puppies and stuff.
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Re: Appearance of Orcs (and other Goblinoids)

Postby Anderas » August 9th, 2015, 2:41 pm

Yes and they attack surf champions!
I give 100 gold coins, less than the price of a helmet, to the hero who kills the shark with a sword!
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Re: Appearance of Orcs (and other Goblinoids)

Postby whitebeard » August 9th, 2015, 7:34 pm

With or without frikin' laser beams attached to their heads?
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Re: Appearance of Orcs (and other Goblinoids)

Postby Anderas » August 10th, 2015, 1:01 am

Sadly yes, but that would have been cool!

Luckily he wasn't hurt

But the ultimative proof that sharks are evil can be found in sharknado, the ultimative shark film. What can be more evil than flying biting sharks?

I think this shark grey would also be a great alternative color for Orcs, as we are talking about the appearance of Orcs and Goblinoids here. One side near-white and one side bluish-grey?

Naah. But I'll try skintone orcs soon.


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