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Re: HeroQuest Publication Chronology

Postby Dreadaxe » November 21st, 2022, 6:10 am

Cael Darkhollow wrote:[…] September 1992 White Dwarf Magazine 153 page 16-32 Warhammer Fantasy Battles 4th edition boxed set preview (released in October 1992) 4th edition WHFB did away with Fimir, also the magic system went from elemental types used in HQ to different Lores and eight colleges of magic,


The concept and rules of Color Magic college Lore exist for WFB3 since White Dwarf UK #113 and #114.


White Dwarf UK #159) Rivers of Blood: AHQ scenario
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Re: HeroQuest Publication Chronology

Postby Bareheaded Warrior » November 21st, 2022, 9:42 am

I'm working through all the feedback and will re-edit the initial post once done, but just an interim thought, if there isn't already a list of AHQ Quests in the AHQ section (and I haven't checked) then some of this information would be really useful in there, if someone wants to find/start such a topic. It would also be useful to have such an AHQ thread so that we could look to convert any AHQ Quests to HQ where they haven't already been done.
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Re: HeroQuest Publication Chronology

Postby Cael Darkhollow » November 21st, 2022, 5:42 pm

Copy right dates appear to conflict with "available for purchase" dates from advertisements for many of the products, so perhaps a copy right date/ release date format is needed.
Continental Europe, Australia and New Zealand release dates lag behind UK but have same copy right dates. Translated versions (Italian, French, German, etc. have different release dates, White Dwarf actually talks about needing translators for its games for various languages in later magazine issues than the initial HQ UK release dates and when some translated versions will be/were available in European countries.)

As Advanced HeroQuest literally shows the same HQ characters in much of its art (including the box cover!) and updated the stats for heroes (and their appearances in art in some instances), Games Workshop very much considered it a continuation of HeroQuest throughout the span of HQ/AHQ publications; only after the Milton Bradley collaboration ended (sometime in 1993 most likely) did they give up on that idea and revamp both HeroQuest game systems with their own Warhammer Quest that didn't have complicated intellectual property issues with Milton Bradley/Hasbro as it was all in house. Advanced Heroquest also includes a rules for using the HeroQuest game section, character cards for the HQ characters, and tables for Solo Play using Random Dungeon Table generator, including a special section for creating random dungeons on the Heroquest game board. It's ALL HeroQuest to GW (and me ;) ). Someone needs to ask Stephen Baker exactly when and what the nature of those companies (GW and MB/Hasbro) separating and terminating their collaboration was and how it affected HeroQuest, it is more than germane to the development and release of many GW/MB collaborated games including HeroQuest, Battle Masters, Space Crusade, etc. It has long been speculated that the Barbarian Quest Pack and the Elf Quest Pack NA releases were made after Games Workshop ceased development involvement but still retained some copyrights, and possibly why the rest of the North American quest packs in development were cancelled, but it is speculation.

**Cover dates are not the actual printing publication dates for White Dwarf Magazine but rather the stand dates**

June 1987 The White Dwarf Magazine 90 (ten year anniversary) THE WHITE DWARF cover painting by John Sibbick which eventually would be turned into the original plastic dwarf figure for HeroQuest

May 1989 White Dwarf Magazine 113 page 10, painted prototype HeroQuest metal figures

July 1989 White Dwarf Magazine 115 HeroQuest cover painting by David Gallagher used on the HQ Game Screen, Advanced HeroQuest competition page 8, HeroQuest preview page 33-35 says will be available Summer '89, Advanced HeroQuest ad page 36 says will be available Late Summer '89.

© 1989 HEROQUEST GAME SYSTEM UK (© 1989 found on Rules of play booklet, quest book, game board, and game box) release date ? 1989 (sometime after July '89 per WD 115 possibly August or September) FIRST OFFICIAL RELEASED HEROQUEST GAME PRODUCT
HeroQuest Quest Book 14 quests(UK 1st original release version with The Maze as the first quest)
The Maze, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
The Rescue of Sir Ragnar, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Lair of the Orc Warlord, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Prince Magnus' Gold, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Melar's Maze, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Legacy of the Orc Warlord, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
The Stone Hunter Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
The Fire Mage, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Race Against Time, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Castle of Mystery, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Bastion of Chaos, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Barak Tor- Barrow of the Witch Lord, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Quest for the Spirit Blade, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Return to Barak Tor, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System

October 1989 White Dwarf Magazine 118 Advanced HeroQuest cover painting by Les Edwards used on AHQ game box, page 43-47 Advanced Heroquest preview (also shows HeroQuest neither yet available), Page 61 painted HeroQuest plastic figures Chaos Warrior, Dwarf, Elf, Wizard, Barbarian

© 1989 ADVANCED HEROQUEST (© 1989 found on AHQ Rules for Heroic Play book, © 1989 on AHQ Dungeon tile sheets, © 1990 on AHQ game box) UK release date ? 1989 (probably after October according to WD 118) U.S. release date ? 1990 FIRST OFFICIAL RELEASED ADVANCED HEROQUEST GAME PRODUCT
Advanced Heroquest, Heroquest, 3-D Roleplay Hobby Game, and Games Workshop and Citadel Miniatures logos are all Trademarks owned by Games Workshop Ltd. Advanced Heroquest and all its associated imagery are copyright © 1989 Games Workshop Ltd. All Rights Reserved.
HeroQuest section of AHQ rules For Heroic Play Book pages 45-47 including random dungeon generator on HQ board, and HQ character cards on insert for copy use
Quest for the Shattered Amulet Solo Quest
1.The Warlord's Lair Advanced HeroQuest Rules for Heroic Play book
2.The Magic Maze Advanced HeroQuest Rules for Heroic Play book
3.The Plague Temple Advanced HeroQuest Rules for Heroic Play book
4.The Amber Room Advanced HeroQuest Rules for Heroic Play book
5.The Prison of Ice Advanced HeroQuest Rules for Heroic Play book

© 1989 HEROQUEST KELLAR'S KEEP (© 1989 found on KK quest book and supplement box) UK release date ? 1989 (after July after HQ Game System probably after October according to WD118) SECOND OFFICIAL RELEASED HEROQUEST GAME PRODUCT
Kellar's Keep Quest Book 10 quests
The Great Gate Kellar's Keep Quest Book
The Warrior Halls Kellar's Keep Quest Book
The Spiral Passage Kellar's Keep Quest Book
The Dwarven Forge Kellar's Keep Quest Book
Hall of the Dwarven Kings Kellar's Keep Quest Book
The Great Citadel Kellars's Keep Quest Book
The Eastern Passage kellar's Keep Quest Book
Belorn's Mine Kellar's Keep Quest Book
The East Gate Kellar's Keep Quest Book
Grin's Crag Kellar's Keep Quest Book

© 1989 HEROQUEST RETURN OF THE WITCH LORD (© 1989 found on ROTWL quest book and supplement box) release date ? 1989 (after July released after HQ Game System, probably after October possibly November, released later same year as KK) THIRD OFFICIAL RELEASED HEROQUEST PRODUCT
Return of the Witch Lord Quest book 10 quests
The Gate of Doom Return of the Witch Lord Quest Book
The Cold Halls Return of the Witch Lord Quest Book
The Silent Passages Return of the Witch Lord Quest Book
The Halls of Vision Return of the Witch Lord Quest Book
The Gate of Bellthor Return of the Witch Lord Quest Book
Halls of the Dead Return of the Witch Lord Quest Book
The Forgotten Legion Return of the Witch Lord Quest Book
The Forbidden Caverns Return of the Witch Lord Quest Book
The Last Gate Return of the Witch lord Quest Book
The Court of the Witch Lord Return of the Witch Lord Quest book

© 1989 HEROQUEST GAME SYSTEM REVISED UK copyright dates still say 1989 release date ? (sometime after Oct '89 possibly 1990) REVISED FIRST OFFICIAL RERELEASED HEROQUEST GAME PRODUCT
© 1989 Heroquest rules of play Booklet (some rules and format changes from 1st released rules version)
© 1989 HeroQuest Quest Book 14 quests(UK 2nd release version with The Trial as the first quest)(minor changes from 1st released quest book version)
1.(b) The Trial, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System (replaced The Maze quest
all other quests titles the same as first version.

January 1990 White Dwarf Magazine 121 page 10 painted Heroquest plastic Fimir, page 41- 54 Advanced HeroQuest The Quest for Sonneklinge quest, page 72 AHQ mail order ad (AHQ currently available to order UK)

February 1990 White Dwarf Magazine 122 page 2 painted HeroQuest plastic gargoyle, page 63-69 Advanced HeroQuest The Priests of Pleasure quest

May 1990 White Dwarf Magazine 125 page 19 Advanced HeroQuest The Dark Beneath the World quest (including AHQ stats for Felix Jaegar and Gotrek Gurnisson very well known Warhammer Fantasy characters!)

August 1990 White Dwarf Magazine 128 HeroQuest cover painting by Les Edwards used on Kellar's Keep
Les' picture from the cover of MB games' first HeroQuest supplement Artwork © 1990 Milton Bradley Limited. Used with Permission.


October 1990 White Dwarf Magazine 130 HeroQuest cover painting by Les Edwards used on Return of the Witch Lord
Les' picture from the cover of MB Games' second HeroQuest supplement Artwork © 1990 Milton Bradley Limited. Used with Permission.


© 1989, 1990 HEROQUEST GAME SYSTEM US VERSION (© 1989, 1990 found on Instruction booklet, © 1989, 1990 found on HQ quest book, © 1989, 1990 found on Armory insert, © 1989, 1990 found on game board, ©1990 found on advertisement sheet, © 1989, 1990 found on Character Sheets, and © 1989, 1990 found on game box) release date ? 1990 FIRST OFFICIAL RELEASED HEROQUEST NORTH AMERICAN GAME PRODUCT
HeroQuest Quest Book 14 quests(UK 1st original release version with The Maze as the first quest)
Quest 1 The Trial, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Quest 2 The Rescue of Sir Ragnar, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Quest 3 Lair of the Orc Warlord, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Quest 4 Prince Magnus' Gold, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Quest 5 Melar's Maze, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Quest 6 Legacy of the Orc Warlord, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Quest 7 The Lost Wizard Quest Book HeroQuest Game System (called The Stone Hunter in UK versions)
Quest 8 The Fire Mage, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Quest 9 Race Against Time, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Quest 10 Castle of Mystery, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Quest 11 Bastion of Chaos, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Quest 12 Barak Tor- Barrow of the Witch Lord, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Quest 13 Quest for the Spirit Blade, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System
Quest 14 Return to Barak Tor, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System

© 1990 HEROQUEST ADVENTURE DESIGN KIT (© 1990 found on Adventure Design Booklet, ADK Sticker sheets and supplement box)
Developed with Games Workshop
release date 1991? we know this was the third HQ supplement (UK/EU) produced, but when was it actually on shelves ready to be sold or ordered? White Dwarf 134 seems to show it had not yet actually been released by the WD cover date of February 1991 and it still had it's name in development as " HeroQuest Dungeon Design Kit" and wasn't finalized as HQ ADK yet. FOURTH OFFICIAL RELEASED HEROQUEST GAME PRODUCT
The Plague of Zombies quest shown on back of ADK box (quest notes incomplete)

© 1990 HEROQUEST AGAINST THE OGRE HORDE(© 1990 copyright dates on ATOH box,© 1990 ATOH booklet, and © 1990 ATOH Tile Sheet) Actual Release Date ??? UK not released yet by February 1991 according to White Dwarf 134, also Marvel Winter Special says coming soon in 1992. Product clearly shown in 1991 ads. When was it actually released? What is the earliest unambiguous evidence of this product actually being available ? Who knows. Mine has ads for upcoming game day 1993 in the box, and 1992 HQ/ Space Crusade ads and GW mail order forms and envelopes. ATOH has evidence anywhere from 1990-1993. I believe it was actually released after Feb 1991 based on ads and WD but am seeking corroboration.
Search for Ogre Fortress, Against the Ogre Horde Quest Book
The Outer Caves, Against the Ogre Horde Quest Book
Lair of the Ogre Horde, Against the Ogre Horde Quest Book
The Carrion Halls, Against the Ogre Horde Quest Book
The Pit of Chaos, Against the Ogre Horde Quest Book
Fortress of the Ogre Lord, Against the Ogre Horde Quest Book
Flight to the Surface, Against the Ogre Horde Quest Book

February 1991 White Dwarf Magazine 134 page 2 two prototype HQ ogre metal figures
Prototypes of some of the Citadel Miniatures Ogres for the forthcoming HeroQuest supplement, Against the Ogre Horde
mentions HeroQuest Dungeon Design Kit (interesting early name), Against the Ogre Horde, and looking further ahead new types of wizard (future HQ supplement Wizards of Morcar.) Page 12-29 Advanced HeroQuest The Trollslayer's Oath quest, page 30-32 The Halls of Durrag-Dol quest

June 1991 White Dwarf Magazine 138 page 4 mentions
We'll soon be releasing an Advanced HeroQuest Paint Set. We haven't quite finalized what's going to be inside the box...
page 47-51 Advanced HeroQuest Henchmen, new rules for captains, sergeants, elf wardancers, dwarf troll slayers and wizard's apprentices

© 1991 ADVANCED HEROQUEST PAINT SET (© 1991 on Citadel Miniatures Painting Guide, © 1991 on AHQ Paint Set box) ? 1991 release date (after June 1991 according to WD 138) FIRST AHQ OFFICIAL RELEASED GAME PRODUCT

July 1991 White Dwarf Magazine 139 page 4
This month will see the release of Mighty Warriors and introductory level game
(Mighty Warriors uses same plastic figures as Advanced HeroQuest)
page 5
Almost nearing completion, is the new supplement for Advanced HeroQuest. Currently known as Terror in the Dark...

page 57-72 Advanced HeroQuest treasure (additional rules)

© 1991 ADVANCED HEROQUEST TERROR IN THE DARK (© 1991 on AHQ Terror in the Dark book, © 1991 on AHQ dungeon tiles, and © 1991 on AHQ TD box) ? 1991 UK release date (after July 1991 according to WD 139) ? 1991 US release date SECOND AHQ OFFICIAL RELEASED GAME PRODUCT
The Quest for the Lichemasterquest AHQ Terror in the Dark book
1. The Sword of the Flaming Heart AHQ Terror in the Dark book
2. The Wand of Conflagration AHQ Terror in the Dark book
3. The Power Bow of Loren AHQ Terror in the Dark book
4. The World's Edge Hammer AHQ Terror in the Dark book
5. Caverns of the lIchemaster, Upper Levels AHQ Terror in the Dark book
6. Caverns of the Lichemaster, Lower Levels AHQ Terror in the Dark book

© 1989,1991 HEROQUEST KELLAR"S KEEP QUEST PACK (© 1989,1991 copyright on KK quest book, KK tile sheet, and KK quest pack box, © 1990 ad sheet ) US version released October 1991 (Available October 1991 on advertisement half sheet included with base game and supplements) RELEASED SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH ROTWL US VERSION FIRST US SUPPLEMENT
minor changes to quest book from original UK release

© 1989,1991 HEROQUEST RETURN OF THE WITCH LORD QUEST PACK (© 1989,1991 copyright on ROTWL quest book, ROTWL tile sheet, and ROTWL quest pack box, © 1990 ad sheet) US version released October 1991 (Available October 1991 on advertisement half sheet included with base game and supplements) RELEASED SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH KK US VERSION SECOND US SUPPLEMENT (Based on UK/EU order and quest narratives)
minor changes to quest book from original UK release

1991 Merlin HeroQuest Sticker Album

1991 MB Games HeroQuest jigsaw puzzles © 1989 MB International BV under Berne & Universal Copyright Convention. ? 1991 (before late 1991 release based on Marvel Winter Special mentioning puzzles available now)

1991 Athena HeroQuest Poster

late 1991 HeroQuest A Marvel Winter Special contains available now ads for HeroQuest Adventure Design Kit, Merlin HeroQuest Sticker album, MB Games HeroQuest puzzles, Athena HeroQuest Poster, Gremlin HeroQuest video game and Advanced HeroQuest Paint Set. Coming soon in 1992 ads for Against the Ogre Horde, Wizards of Morcar and The Fellowship of the Four HeroQuest novel.

1991 Italian version published of Advanced HeroQuest by RIPA sas of Milan

1991 Advertisement Battlemasters (UK) says available Summer '92

© 1991 HEROQUEST WIZARDS OF MORCAR (© 1991 found on WOM Booklet and supplement box) UK release date? After Feb 1991 according to WD, Late 1991? 1992?, AUS release date ??? Coming soon in 1992 ads for Wizards of Morcar in Marvel Winter Special published late 1991.
Wizards of Morcar Quest Book 5 quests
The Tower of the High Mage, Wizards of Morcar Quest Book
Crypt of the Necromancer, Wizards of Morcar Quest Book
Eyrie of the Storm Master, Wizards of Morcar Quest Book
Lair of the Orc Shaman, Wizards of Morcar Quest Book
The final Conflict, Wizards of Morcar Quest Book

1991 advertisement showing HeroQuest Game System (UK) Wizards of Morcar, Against the Ogre Horde, Return of the Witchlord (UK), Kellar's Keep (UK), Adventure Design Kit

© 1991 HEROQUEST THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE FOUR HeroQuest novel and game book by Dave Morris CORGI BOOKS Transworld Publishers Ltd. published November 14, 1991
HeroQuest Adventure Game IN THE NIGHT SEASON

1992 advertisement showing HeroQuest Game System (US), Keller's Keep (US), Return of the Witch Lord (US), Barbarian Quest Pack (US), Elf Quest Pack (US), BattleMasters (US)

1992 advertisement showing HeroQuest Advanced Quest edition (UK)

January 1992 White Dwarf Magazine 145 page 54-59 HeroQuest The Eyes of Chaos quest, pages 60-71 Advanced HeroQuest The Eyes of Chaos quest

© 1992 HEROQUEST ADVANCED QUEST EDITION REVISED UK GAME SYSTEM (© 1989 found on game board, © 1989 found on HQ quest book, © 1989 found on Rules of Play book, and © 1992 found on The Dark Company quest fold out map, © 1992 HQ Advanced Quest Edition box, © 1991 ad sheet showing HQ , KK, ROTWL, ATOH, WOM, and preview of Battlemasters coming summer 1992) release date ? 1992(Before summer 1992 based on included ad sheet) REVISED FIRST OFFICIAL RELEASED HEROQUEST GAME PRODUCT PLUS DARK COMPANY NEW QUESTS AND FIGURES
HQ Quest book quests and rule book same as revised set
© 1989 Heroquest rules of play Booklet (some rules and format changes from 1st released rules version)
© 1989 HeroQuest Quest Book 14 quests(UK 2nd release version with The Trial as the first quest)(minor changes from 1st released quest book version)
1.(b) The Trial, Quest Book HeroQuest Game System (replaced The Maze quest)
all other quests titles the same as first version.
The Dark Company quest large map fold out 13 part four game board quest
The Dark Company (board 1)
The Dark Company (board 2)
The Dark Company (board 3)
The Dark Company (board 4)

June 1992 White Dwarf Magazine 150 page 41-47 Advanced HeroQuest The Changing Faces of Tzeentch quest

© 1992 BATTLE MASTERS Game System UK VERSION(© 1992 found on game box, rules pamphlet, tile sheet, stickers sheets, strangely no copyright on game mat.) UK release Summer 1992?

© 1992 BATTLE MASTERS Game System US VERSION(© 1992 found on game box, Assembly Instructions sheet, rules pamphlet, tile sheet, stickers sheets, strangely no copyright on game mat.) US release Summer 1992?

© 1992 HEROQUEST BARBARIAN QUEST PACK (© 1992 copyright on box, quest book The Frozen Horror, and ad/order form showing HQ game system, KK, ROTWL, BQP, EQP, and Battle Masters.) US release date Summer 1992?
Barbarian Quest Pack 10 quests
Xanon Pass Solo Quest, Barbarian Quest Book The Frozen Horror
Trial by Ice Solo Quest, Barbarian Quest Book The Frozen Horror
The Rescue Solo Quest, Barbarian Quest Book The Frozen Horror
The Glacial Gate, Barbarian Quest Book The Frozen Horror
The Deadly Depths, Barbarian Quest Book The Frozen Horror
The Frozen Path, Barbarian Quest Book The Frozen Horror
The Halls of Kelvinos, Barbarian Quest Book The Frozen Horror
The Search for the Scepter, Barbarian Quest Book The Frozen Horror
The Heart of Ice Double Quest (part A), Barbarian Quest Book The Frozen Horror
The Heart of Ice Double Quest (Part B), Barbarian Quest Book The Frozen Horror

© 1992 HEROQUEST ELF QUEST PACK (© 1992 copyright on box, quest book The Mage of the Mirror, and ad/order form showing HQ game system, KK, ROTWL, BQP, EQP, and Battle Masters.) US release date Summer 1992?
Elf Quest Pack 10 quests
The Avenger Returns Solo Quest, Elf Quest Book The Mage of the Mirror
On Sacred Ground Solo Quest, Elf Quest Book The Mage of the Mirror
Terrellia's Maze Solo Quest, Elf Quest Book The Mage of the Mirror
The Elven Prospector, Elf Quest Book The Mage of the Mirror
The Alchemist's Laboratory, Elf Quest Book The Mage of the Mirror
Tormuk's Guests, Elf Quest Book The Mage of the Mirror
Gliness Fen, Elf Quest Book The Mage of the Mirror
The Gathering Storm, Elf Quest Book The Mage of the Mirror
Hidden Realms Double Quest (part A), Elf Quest The Mage of the Mirror
Hidden realms Double Quest (part B), Elf Quest The Mage of the Mirror

September 1992 White Dwarf Magazine 153 page 16-32 Warhammer Fantasy Battles 4th edition boxed set preview (released in October 1992) 4th edition WHFB did away with Fimir, also the magic system went from elemental types used in HQ to different Lores and eight colleges of magic (including some used previously in AHQ), and the Old World and it's races and monsters became much more developed in many supplements and releases. all HeroQuest, Advanced HeroQuest, and Battlemasters release dates coincide with 3rd and 4th editions of Warhammer Fantasy Battles and are set in the same Old World setting. (we might be able to speculate release time from White Dwarf preview, HQ preview in July so perhaps Sept 1989? Advanced HQ preview in Oct. so perhaps released in Dec? Purely speculation...)

©1992 HEROQUEST THE SCREAMING SPECTRE HeroQuest novel and game book by Dave Morris CORGI BOOKS Transworld Publishers Ltd. published November 12, 1992
HeroQuest Adventure Game BEYOND THE WORLD'S EDGE A Solitaire Adventure for the Wizard
HeroQuest Game System RUNNING THE GAUNTLET A Solo Quest for a Wizard HeroQuest Quest

December 1992 White Dwarf 156 page 29-33 Milton Bradley/Games Workshop Battle Masters game preview, mentions HeroQuest, and forthcoming Battle Masters expansions, page 56 painted Necromancer figure, page 57-58 painted Battlemasters figures.

© 1992 BATTLE MASTERS REINFORCEMENTS IMPERIAL LORDS (© 1992 found on rules pamphlet, expansion box, © 1991 found on ad with Space Crusade, Hero Quest, KK, ROTWL, ADK, ATOH, WOM, says Battle Masters available Summer 1992.) UK release date 1992? sometime after Dec 1992 according to WD 156

© 1992 BATTLE MASTERS REINFORCEMENTS CHAOS WARBAND (© 1992 found on rules pamphlet, expansion box, © 1991 found on ad with Space Crusade, Hero Quest, KK, ROTWL, ADK, ATOH, WOM, says Battle Masters available Summer 1992.) UK release date 1992? sometime after Dec 1992 according to WD 156

© 1992 HEROQUEST QUEST PACK FOR THE ELF US REVISED VERSION EXPANSION PACK US release date after Elfquest copyright lawsuit required quest pack name change 1992? 1993?

©1993 HEROQUEST THE TYRANT'S TOMB HeroQuest novel and game book by Dave Morris CORGI BOOKS Transworld Publishers Ltd. published May 27, 1993
HeroQuest Adventure Game THE TREASURE OF CHUNGOR KHAN A Solo Adventure for a Barbarian
HeroQuest Game System A GROWL OF THUNDER A Solitare Quest for a Barbarian HeroQuest Quest
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Re: HeroQuest Publication Chronology

Postby HispaZargon » November 21st, 2022, 10:11 pm

About Brazilian edition of the game, I have been investigating a bit more...

I am quite sure that the two expansions were released in 1994, which is also the year shown in their boxes. However, I think first version/s of the Game System were released in 1993, not in 1994 as I said before. There is a magazine advertisement dated in 1993 and Questbook and Rulebook are also dated in 1993. And, yes, I am talking about "versions" because I also suspect there were different versions of the Brazilian Game System. As far as I have checked on internet, they could have had little differences like minor changes in box design (the position of parchment in the front cover) and probably also the dice. Yes, I think there was a version with plastic dice and other with wood dice, and probably more differences exist. I have seen on internet at least 3 different designs of Game System box front cover. If somebody could confirm these data about Brazilian edition, it would be great.

About GW collaboration with MB, I guess they could had been still together also during part of 1994, since MB logo already appears for example in Kellar's Keep Brazilian expansion box, as said, dated in 1994.


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Re: HeroQuest Publication Chronology

Postby Cael Darkhollow » November 22nd, 2022, 1:09 am

HispaZargon wrote:If somebody could confirm these data about Brazilian edition, it would be great.
About GW collaboration with MB, I guess they could had been still together also during part of 1994, since MB logo already appears for example in Kellar's Keep Brazilian expansion box, as said, dated in 1994.

It would be great if someone with the knowledge could fill in the copyright dates and possible release dates for non-English language HeroQuest editions. I am certainly no expert on foreign language versions of HeroQuest, I don't own any of them and couldn't understand them if I did. The Japanese and Brazilian versions certainly seem the most talked about as they have unique material such as totally different quests or mythology, and large fan bases; while the Spanish, French, Italian, and German seem to be just more direct or approximate translations of the English version. I think there was a Finnish and perhaps a Dutch version, and a few others I could be wrong.

Does the Brazilian HQ stuff have Games Workshop logos?
I wonder a lot about the MB logo and Games Workshop logos on the HQ boxes, It could be that the game content creator was simply covering an old trade mark for the HeroQuest name brand by including it, without much or any actual development help from them. Games Workshop certainly had a huge role in all of the European released HQ game materials (up until 1992 at the very least), and the North American versions based on them (KK, ROTWL) most say "MB developed in conjunction with Games Workshop" (or something similar to that effect in the copyright paragraph) but I do wonder if the new North American content such as Elf Quest Pack and Barbarian Quest Pack only included GW trademarks on the packaging because they (MB) still had to, but had developed some of their own material by late 1992 into 1993(would go a long ways to explain the inconsistencies with GW Warhammer and all their intellectual property) but then had to make it similar enough to the older material to still fit. The unreleased quests might have had little to no GW influence and perhaps weren't as recognizable as HQ brand so got scrapped (speculation.)

The 3 HQ Novels published by Corgi are an even greater mystery as to their inconsistencies, they widely diverge from Games Workshop Warhammer canon at some points but had no involvement by MB at all, just GW notes (supposedly) and whatever author was writing the story. The Marvel Winter Special and Merlin Sticker album had their inconsistencies with the main HQ game too.

The clearest sign that the HeroQuest name brand was no longer under Games Workshop direct influence or control by 1994 was the second PC HQ video game (HeroQuest II: Legacy of Sorasil) that was heavily influenced by TSR'S D&D (it has Beholders!!!) rather than Warhammer ( a direct competitor game company at that point to Games Workshop) and had completely different geography and nations compared to anything in HeroQuest or Warhammer. MB had no involvement in that one either as far as I know. It may even be originally a different RPG type generic game that was changed to HeroQuest brand name to help with the marketing and sales.

I firmly believe that Games Workshop did nearly all the HeroQuest development such as story, background, monsters, setting, geography, art direction aesthetic and illustrations, models and casting, stats, types of treasure and spells, rules and mechanics etc. which is why it is so compatible with Warhammer fantasy on all those points, while Milton Bradley/Hasbro mainly did the basic HQ game design (gameboard and tile concept), manufacturing, packaging, layout, distribution, some rules perhaps such as cards. I don't have any direct evidence to back that assertion but given the direction they headed afterwards (GW went on to make Warhammer Quest, Mordheim, etc.) , while MB (and Stephen Baker) went on to do Heroscape which has far more in common with Battlemasters than HeroQuest.
Strangely the MB/GW Battlemasters figures were distorted but still recognizable and rereleased by Parker Bros. in the 1997 Lionheart board game (how in the nine hells did that happen?)
Parker Bros. Legend of Zagor board game is similar in vibe to HQ, while Parker Bros. Tower of the Wizard King is a similar type of fantasy game but is much farther from the HQ look.
Meanwhile Darkworld board game system figures look nearly exactly like new HeroQuest miniatures (could even be the same artist/sculptor as the HeroQuest minis) but was released by WADDINGTONS in the UK and Mattel in the US, leading me to believe that board game companies (Milton Bradley, Hasbro, Parker Bros., Waddingtons, Mattel etc.) had little to no hand in those games' actual development at all but bought them solely to distribute them from the original creators/developers whoever they may actually be. In fact many of those games have no developer credited on Game Board Geek website just the Publisher game company.

Was the Milton Bradley collaboration with Games Workshop on HeroQuest just a move with a board game company to make Warhammer Fantasy Battles table top gaming and Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay into a board game for a larger family market as a ploy to eventually bring more customers into the Warhammer community? It certainly worked that way for me as HeroQuest was my introduction to Warhammer.

It seems it wasn't until decades later and the new HQ remake that Hasbro (which absorbed MB) developed much HeroQuest material (using the old game as a template), but steering the broader target family board game audience to Dungeons & Dragons rather than Warhammer this time. TSR was absorbed by Wizards of the Coast which was then absorbed by Hasbro which already had Milton Bradley since the days of the original HQ. By then Hasbro was a fantasy game developer in it's own right, not just a toy/ board game manufacturer/publisher.
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Re: HeroQuest Publication Chronology

Postby HispaZargon » November 22nd, 2022, 3:02 pm

Cael Darkhollow wrote:Does the Brazilian HQ stuff have Games Workshop logos?

No, its boxes, content and advertisements only have references to Estrela (the Brazilian licensed distributor), Hasbro and MB, but not GW anywhere. Maybe could be caused because this version did no included any Citadel plastic miniature? Just speculation, but...

Cael Darkhollow wrote:The unreleased quests might have had little to no GW influence and perhaps weren't as recognizable as HQ brand so got scrapped (speculation.)

Mmm... I think they had the same influence from GW as Barbarian and Elf questpacks, since the four were supposely to be developed more or less at the same time and mostly by the same people. The reasons to be scrapped I guess were more caused by the low comercial response and profit margins obtained in shops with BQP and EQP. Nevertheless, rumours not confirmed of course.

Cael Darkhollow wrote:The clearest sign that the HeroQuest name brand was no longer under Games Workshop direct influence or control by 1994 was the second PC HQ video game (HeroQuest II: Legacy of Sorasil) that was heavily influenced by TSR'S D&D (it has Beholders!!!) rather than Warhammer ( a direct competitor game company at that point to Games Workshop) and had completely different geography and nations compared to anything in HeroQuest or Warhammer. MB had no involvement in that one either as far as I know. It may even be originally a different RPG type generic game that was changed to HeroQuest brand name to help with the marketing and sales.

Yeah, Legacy of Sorasil is quite a different lore style than rest of HeroQuest... however Games Workshop explicit refetence exists in the videogame manual.

Cael Darkhollow wrote:Was the Milton Bradley collaboration with Games Workshop on HeroQuest just a move with a board game company to make Warhammer Fantasy Battles table top gaming and Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay into a board game for a larger family market as a ploy to eventually bring more customers into the Warhammer community? It certainly worked that way for me as HeroQuest was my introduction to Warhammer.

No doubt for me about this... Space Crusade did the same with W40k. HeroQuest introduced me in the Warhammer aesthetic and worlds, and thanks to BattleMasters miniatures I could have my first Warhammer army by a low price.


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Re: HeroQuest Publication Chronology

Postby Bareheaded Warrior » November 25th, 2022, 12:15 pm

According to BGG (who don't list their sources...so I can't challenge it but I'll add it into the mix anyway)

HeroQuest (1989)
HeroQuest Advanced Quest (1990)
HeroQuest: English (US) edition 1990 Languages: English
HeroQuest: Finnish edition 1990
HeroQuest: Kellar's Keep (1991)
HeroQuest: Return of the Witch Lord (1991)
HeroQuest: Greek edition 1991 Languages: Greek
HeroQuest: Japanese edition 1991 Languages: Japanese
HeroQuest: The Halls of Durrag-Dol (1991)
HeroQuest: Running the Gauntlet (1992)
HeroQuest: Barbarian Quest Pack (1992)
HeroQuest: Elf Quest Pack (1992)
HeroQuest: The Eyes of Chaos (1992)
Heroquest: A Growl of Thunder (1993)
HeroQuest: Wizards of Morcar (1993)
HeroQuest: Against the Ogre Horde (1993)
HeroQuest: Portuguese (Brazilian) edition (1994) Languages: Portuguese

HeroQuest: Mythic (2021)
HeroQuest: Hero Collection – Commander of the Guardian Knights (2021)
HeroQuest: English edition 2021 (2022) Languages: English Release Date: Jan 2022
HeroQuest: Spanish edition 2022 Languages: Spanish Release Date: Feb 2022
HeroQuest: French edition 2022 Languages: French Release Date: Mar 4, 2022
HeroQuest: Italian edition 2022 Languages: Italian Release Date: Jun 6, 2022
HeroQuest: German edition 2022 Languages: German
HeroQuest: The Frozen Horror (2022)
HeroQuest: Hero Collection – The Rogue Heir of Elethorn (2022)
HeroQuest: New Beginnings (2022)
HeroQuest: The Mage of the Mirror (2023)

Adventure 1: The Mountain Keep (fan expansion for HeroQuest) (2004)
Adventure 2: Slaves Of Zargon (fan expansion for HeroQuest) (2005)
Adventure 3: The Lost Books (fan expansion for HeroQuest) (2005)
Adventure 4: In The King's Service (fan expansion for HeroQuest) (2007)
Adventure 5: Beyond Grin's Crag – Kellar's Keep 2 (fan expansion for HeroQuest) (2009)
Adventure 6: Resurrection – Return of the Witch Lord 2 (fan expansion for HeroQuest) (2009)
Adventure 7: The Rescue of Princess Millandriell (fan expansion for HeroQuest) (2010)
Adventure 8: The Horror Inside the Ancient Halls of Sunca (fan expansion for HeroQuest) (2010)

Masters' Series: Adventure 1 – The Deadly Hand of Zargon (fan expansion for HeroQuest) (2011)

HeroQuest Adventures: Volume 1 (2021)
HeroQuest Adventures: Volume 2 (2021)
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Re: HeroQuest Publication Chronology

Postby Bareheaded Warrior » November 25th, 2022, 12:19 pm

And bugger, I just discovered that this...

Adventure 6: Resurrection – Return of the Witch Lord 2 (fan expansion for HeroQuest) (2009)

In this second set of adventures, we continue the stories that were created in the expansions series created by Milton Bradley.
In this adventure Mentor discovers that Queen Kessandria and Skulmar are planning to resurrect the Witch Lord. Can you get there in time to stop them?


...means that someone beat me to publish my Quests with exactly the same plot - although to be fair I have been planning to finish those Quest since the early 90s so I guess I had my chance!
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Re: HeroQuest Publication Chronology

Postby Kurgan » November 27th, 2022, 2:24 am

If the Brazilian editions continued on into 1994 that would be an interesting thing to be sure and good point reminding that the plastic figures were not included, only the cardboard replacements (though the art was all based on the same designs, right?).

Up until this point I had assumed that 1992 was the last year of new physical box editions (not including officially licensed items like novels or puzzles).

I have only seen mention of the "plastic saving" slimmer designs of furniture on these forums (along with pictures proving their existence) but I could see those being in some of the later releases or else a kind of re-design at the tail end of of its run (we see minor design changes in the Remake edition throughout the retail run when compared to the pledge version though as an improvement rather than a "cheaper" cut back in my humble opinion).


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Re: HeroQuest Publication Chronology

Postby Cael Darkhollow » December 10th, 2022, 2:07 am

the ELF QUEST PACK was changed to Quest Pack for the Elf and re-released due to a copyright issue with Elfquest an unrelated comic book, board game, and video game series. The box title was changed for the subsequent printing sometime after the first original release (Summer 1992?) I do not own this version only the original, so cannot compare the copyright dates or any possible changes within. Was there a third printing changing the name again to Mage of the Magic Mirror on the box itself? Was the Barbarian Quest Pack ever re-released with a different box to coincide with the new version of the ELF PACK? Perhaps ads, magazines or the lawsuit filing itself could provide further dates for the re-release of this US quest pack.
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