Price and reissue

[bastianbux]

If you're looking for an affordable game that's similar to HeroQuest there's Dungeon Venture. It was previous a print and play game, but they've just a released a production version. You can read more about it here.

I bought a game that "similar" to HQ (Dungeons & Dragons Fantasy Adventure Board Game) only to realize that what I really want is actual HQ. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

But back to the topic: I'm sure that GW could come to some sort of agreement with Hasbro for a reissue or update. Or failing that, GW would make plenty of money on creating the Warhammer Quest Lite thing I suggested. It just seems such a waste to let people make absorbent amounts of money on used copies of HeroQuest when they creators could be making new money on new copies.

[knightkrawler]

The "plenty of money" you suggest GW will be making is nothing compared with the shitload they're making with Finecast models now.
Look at those price ranges! GW will not make a re-issue of HQ. I have no hopes whatsoever.
But I don't even want this to happen either. It's a classic. So let's keep it that way...

[Blackthorn]

A "Warhammer Quest Lite" thing would not be "actual HQ" either, just like the D&D Fantasy Adventure Board Game. If it's just going to be kinda-sorta like HeroQuest, there are already games out there that fit the bill.

I'm not sure exactly where Hasbro's IP ends and Games Workshop's begins, but I don't think a true HeroQuest game can be reprinted without both party's involvement in some way. My guess is that Hasbro has the right's to everything except the game system miniatures and terms like "Chaos Warrior" and "Fimir".

[bastianbux]

A "Warhammer Quest Lite" thing would not be "actual HQ" either, just like the D&D Fantasy Adventure Board Game. If it's just going to be kinda-sorta like HeroQuest, there are already games out there that fit the bill.

Well, I basically meant that all art and quests would likely have to be replaced with new ones, and maybe even have to lose or rename Mentor and Zargon (Morcar is owned by GW, right? They refer to him in Warhammer I think?) and that sort of thing, but they could retain the basic structure of the game by using the same sort of attack/defend dice system (probably have to do new art on the dice) and keep the core rules the same. Or would even that be encroaching on what Hasbro owns when it comes to HeroQuest? I guess that would explain why Advanced HeroQuest is so radically different in terms of rules/dice/etc.

Yeah, I guess it would never happen. But I disagree that D&D Fantasy Adventure Board Game fills the bill. HeroQuest was sublime in its simplicity. Every single other similar game I've played that borrows from HQ over-complicates the rules unnecessarily to the point where I wish I was just playing HQ. That's what I would be hoping for in a "WH Lite" sort of situation: something as simple and basic as HQ.

[Blackthorn]

I predict a copy of HeroQuest in your future. If it brings you that much enjoyment, it's worth the inflated prices. If something happened to my copy I'd be watching the auctions...heck I already am.

[bastianbux]

I hope you're right. I've placed bids on nearly all copies listed and get outbid nearly instantly when it goes beyond my comfort zone of pricing. Haha. Hopefully someday soon I'll luck out.

[bastianbux]

We have an online classifieds Website called kijiji here in Canada. I've placed a few HeroQuest want-ads on there a year-and-a-half ago and purchased a couple decent and a couple excellent sets, plus expansions (KK and WL, sadly no MM or FH) for $20-$40 from people who answered the ads and couldn't be bothered to put them up on eBay. If you have something like that in your area, it couldn't hurt to try.

We have Craigslist here, which I assume is the same sort of thing. I check it daily and have never seen HeroQuest up for sale in my area. But hearing that people do list it gives me hope to keep checking.

[Daedalus]

A "Warhammer Quest Lite" thing would not be "actual HQ" either, just like the D&D Fantasy Adventure Board Game. If it's just going to be kinda-sorta like HeroQuest, there are already games out there that fit the bill.

I'm not sure exactly where Hasbro's IP ends and Games Workshop's begins, but I don't think a true HeroQuest game can be reprinted without both party's involvement in some way. My guess is that Hasbro has the right's to everything except the game system miniatures and terms like "Chaos Warrior" and "Fimir".

The last liscensing of Hero Quest to the Brazilian company Estralia in 1994 indicates that only the figures require a GW license renewal. Hasbro's license for that edition included both Chaos Warrior and Fimir names. Chaos Warrior and Fimir art was still present, as well. The IP for the art at least was apparently bought by Milton Bradley/Hasbro. [Or, more likely, MB simply licensed directly from the artists. GW often worked with cheaper, partial licenses from freelance artists back in the day, so a new license was probably available to MB. -edit] It seems odd to me that GW would lease out the IP for the figures on a seperate license-timeline from that of the IP for the names.

My feeling is Hasbro would be the most likely candidate for a reprint, but I just don't see them renewing the license for the figs. That means they would have to be recreated or substituted with Wizards of the Coast figures. If they went with substitution, the game art would need to be recreated as well. That probably isn't going to satisfy the current nostalgia market. Unfortunately, the cost of making molds for new figures likely is a big deterrent for reprinting the game. The corporate suits of Hasbro prefer safer bets with their tried-and-true vanilla boardgames.

I'd love for the petition to force them to consider a reprint anyway. I personally wouldn't mind some changes if the game stayed basically the same, but was complicated a bit more here and there to fix such things as the Wizard and the leveling system. In fact, if my wish list was accounted for, there would be an appendix with optional rules for a thematically-stronger game. That, and reprinted expansions for all four Heroes.

[drathe]

We have an online classifieds Website called kijiji here in Canada. I've placed a few HeroQuest want-ads on there a year-and-a-half ago and purchased a couple decent and a couple excellent sets, plus expansions (KK and WL, sadly no MM or FH) for $20-$40 from people who answered the ads and couldn't be bothered to put them up on eBay. If you have something like that in your area, it couldn't hurt to try.

We have Craigslist here, which I assume is the same sort of thing. I check it daily and have never seen HeroQuest up for sale in my area. But hearing that people do list it gives me hope to keep checking.

They weren't listed for sale, I put up a want-ad seeking copies and people with copies contacted me through the ad to sell me their games.

[bastianbux]

We have an online classifieds Website called kijiji here in Canada. I've placed a few HeroQuest want-ads on there a year-and-a-half ago and purchased a couple decent and a couple excellent sets, plus expansions (KK and WL, sadly no MM or FH) for $20-$40 from people who answered the ads and couldn't be bothered to put them up on eBay. If you have something like that in your area, it couldn't hurt to try.

We have Craigslist here, which I assume is the same sort of thing. I check it daily and have never seen HeroQuest up for sale in my area. But hearing that people do list it gives me hope to keep checking.

They weren't listed for sale, I put up a want-ad seeking copies and people with copies contacted me through the ad to sell me their games.

Oh, I see. I'll go ahead and post a "wanted" ad for a copy and maybe I'll luck out. Thanks for the suggestion!