Ye Olde Inn

by **wallydubbs** » October 24th, 2018, 9:47 am

If the heroes are captured are they allowed to go to the Armory or Alchemist Shop?

My view on the expansion packs is that Heroes don't get to go to the Armoury/Alchemist shop at all between quests. It's like one big adventure underground without returns to the surface world like in the original game system. Heroes have to go on a big shopping spree before the first quest, and try to plan to take enough equipment & potions to last them until the final quest.

But if I was playing that players COULD usually go shopping between quests, I definitely wouldn't allow them to do so between quests 5 and 6 of RotWL. Our guys are supposed to be rotting in a prison cell, after all.

by **Maurice76** » October 24th, 2018, 10:33 am

What I am planning for in the coming playthrough I want to do with my group of friends, is to add a situational merchant camp. For instance, in Return of the Witch Lord, I might add an Undead merchant who simply couldn't give up his old profession and still sells stuff to potential customers. In Kellar's Keep, during the dungeon crawl, they might encounter a group of mercenaries or rogues who've been stealing from the Orc tribes, who also have stuff to sell to the Heroes. This is between quests, by the way, and not between every quest. I am thinking about just once, about halfway through the quest series.

by **The Admiral** » October 24th, 2018, 1:45 pm

Pancho wrote:My view on the expansion packs is that Heroes don't get to go to the Armoury/Alchemist shop at all between quests. It's like one big adventure underground without returns to the surface world like in the original game system. Heroes have to go on a big shopping spree before the first quest, and try to plan to take enough equipment & potions to last them until the final quest.

But if I was playing that players COULD usually go shopping between quests, I definitely wouldn't allow them to do so between quests 5 and 6 of RotWL. Our guys are supposed to be rotting in a prison cell, after all.

Yep, what he said.

by **Nicodemus** » October 24th, 2018, 6:37 pm

The Admiral wrote:
Pancho wrote:My view on the expansion packs is that Heroes don't get to go to the Armoury/Alchemist shop at all between quests. It's like one big adventure underground without returns to the surface world like in the original game system. Heroes have to go on a big shopping spree before the first quest, and try to plan to take enough equipment & potions to last them until the final quest.

But if I was playing that players COULD usually go shopping between quests, I definitely wouldn't allow them to do so between quests 5 and 6 of RotWL. Our guys are supposed to be rotting in a prison cell, after all.

Yep, what he said.

Ditto to both

by **j_dean80** » October 24th, 2018, 8:02 pm

The alchemist shop specifically says can only be purchased between quests so I always allowed that.

by **wallydubbs** » October 25th, 2018, 7:12 am

Yes, this occurred to me, that since Keller's Keep, Return of the Witch Lord and other expansions are played like a giant quest they, realistically, wouldn't be able to go to the Alchemist Shop or Armory, but if that we're the case, what would be the point of all the gold collected along the way?

It occurred to me that heroes would be limited in this regard, but maybe to give the furniture specific value I was thinking any time a hero comes across a weapons rack they can purchase weapons, and maybe the Alchemist Bench would allow them to buy potions. I think this would make things more exciting for the heroes especially in the harder levels of Keller's Keep as they run out of supplies. However in Return of the Witch Lord most of the chambers are baron. As many people find RotWL too easy when fully equipped.

by **Pancho** » October 25th, 2018, 7:43 am

wallydubbs wrote:Yes, this occurred to me, that since Keller's Keep, Return of the Witch Lord and other expansions are played like a giant quest they, realistically, wouldn't be able to go to the Alchemist Shop or Armory, but if that we're the case, what would be the point of all the gold collected along the way?

In my view the players should be amassing large amounts of gold for the next expansion pack. As the Heroes are likely to be out of potions by the end of a pack, and as each successive pack gets arguable more difficult than the previous one, they will need to collect boat loads of gold before they can move on to the next adventure. This is also partly why they collect a one-off reward from the Emperor for successfully completing a pack. Potions are very expensive, men-at-arms are required for many of the later packs and these are very expensive too, and some of the fan made packs introduce high costs for vital items as well. So players need to be very wealthy as they move forward.

That said, I do appreciate that players will get irritated by not being able to spend the money they have collected between quests. Some people here at the Inn go ahead and let them spend gold between quests. It's really a case of personal choice for the Evil Wizard player with a lot of these kind of issues. The official rules can be very vague and contradictory at times.

Edit; I've just noticed that as well as becoming an Ogre Lord I've also achieved "Rock Skin". Maybe because of a dodgy joke on another thread....if so, that's beautiful man. Love it.

by **j_dean80** » October 25th, 2018, 7:30 pm

If there is no pause between Quests then how does a new Hero join the party if one dies off?

by **StratosVX** » October 25th, 2018, 11:47 pm

Pancho wrote:Edit; I've just noticed that as well as becoming an Ogre Lord I've also achieved "Rock Skin". Maybe because of a dodgy joke on another thread....if so, that's beautiful man. Love it.

I noticed that the other day. I actually laughed out loud when I saw that. :lol: