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Re: Crazy Thought Experiment/Logic Problem

Postby knightkrawler » Sunday July 3rd, 2016 2:58pm

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knightkrawler wrote:I'd pick the freakin' space-goat. Who knows what a space-goat in the future is good for.
Maybe it can transform into a space-hooker serving lines on her tummy.
But what if it turns back while you're doing the line? :o


I don't care, I have a line up my beak.
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Re: Crazy Thought Experiment/Logic Problem

Postby Gold Bearer » Sunday July 3rd, 2016 3:07pm

knightkrawler wrote:
Gold Bearer wrote:
knightkrawler wrote:I'd pick the freakin' space-goat. Who knows what a space-goat in the future is good for.
Maybe it can transform into a space-hooker serving lines on her tummy.
But what if it turns back while you're doing the line? :o
I don't care, I have a line up my beak.
But remember, the line only starts at the tummy. :shock:

Gold Bearer wrote:I've got another good one but it's heard to explain...
Heard? I must have been thinking of space goats.

Goblin-King wrote:Also let's hear the contrived setup GB |_P
Kay.

Two people are held in prison for a crime that they didn't commit. If one were able to leave then they could prove the innocence of both prisoners. The prison warden is a strange character and tells them that in one week he's going to separate them and then put either a blue hat or a white (he has two of each) one their heads and lead them out separately to the courtyard. If they can correctly guess the colour of their own hat then that prisoner will be set free and they'll both get to guess. They'll be tied up so they can't communicate with each other in any way. During the coming week they come up with a plan to guarantee that one of them will be released. How did they do it?
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Re: Crazy Thought Experiment/Logic Problem

Postby mitchiemasha » Sunday July 3rd, 2016 8:28pm

I'd just like to add that when i use the word 'fluff', that doesn't mean it's not important to the question for it to work. I mean that, that thing, the fluff, can be many different things. Often, when faced with these questions, people start thinking more about the actual contents in the question rather than what the question intends to out line.


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Re: Crazy Thought Experiment/Logic Problem

Postby Goblin-King » Monday July 4th, 2016 2:13am

mitchiemasha wrote:I'd just like to add that when i use the word 'fluff', that doesn't mean it's not important to the question for it to work. I mean that, that thing, the fluff, can be many different things. Often, when faced with these questions, people start thinking more about the actual contents in the question rather than what the question intends to out line.

True! Like kk wanting to turn the goat into a hooker.
If you want the car you should ALWAYS switch door for a 2/3 chance of winning. kk should just stay with the door he chose.

And daaaaamn GB, you were right! That scenario is insane! :lol:
Can't figure it out though...
If we imagine the distribution of hats as a coin toss, they could agree to both pick the same color. But that would not guarantee freedom.
The fact they get isolated makes it really hard. Idunno man...


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Re: Crazy Thought Experiment/Logic Problem

Postby mitchiemasha » Monday July 4th, 2016 12:57pm

lol!


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Re: Crazy Thought Experiment/Logic Problem

Postby Gold Bearer » Monday July 4th, 2016 1:32pm

The way I wrote it might have implied that the first one needs to guess right for the second one to also get a try, that's not how it works. They both get a guess.

Two people are held in prison for a crime that they didn't commit. If one were able to leave then they could prove the innocence of both prisoners. The prison warden is a strange character and tells them that in one week he's going to separate them and then put either a blue hat or a white (he has two of each) one their heads and lead them out separately to the courtyard. They both get to guess and if they can correctly guess the colour of their own hat then that prisoner will be set free. They'll be tied up so they can't communicate with each other in any way. During the coming week they come up with a plan to guarantee that one of them will be released. How did they do it?

Goblin-King wrote:And daaaaamn GB, you were right! That scenario is insane! :lol:
Can't figure it out though...
If we imagine the distribution of hats as a coin toss, they could agree to both pick the same color. But that would not guarantee freedom.
What else can they agree to do?

Goblin-King wrote:The fact they get isolated makes it really hard. Idunno man...
Not exactly isolated or they wouldn't need to be tied up. They can see each other in the courtyard but can't communicate.
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Re: Crazy Thought Experiment/Logic Problem

Postby knightkrawler » Monday July 4th, 2016 4:56pm

Both of them seeing each other clears it up.
Prisoner A picks the color he sees on B, prisoner B picks the color he doesn't see on A.
The right guess is green:

situation: A white B white
guesses: A white B blue

situation: A blue B white
guesses: A white B white

situation: A white B blue
guesses: A blue B blue

situation: A blue B blue
guesses: A blue B white
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Re: Crazy Thought Experiment/Logic Problem

Postby mitchiemasha » Monday July 4th, 2016 5:11pm

They can see each other in the courtyard but can't communicate.


Now you never said that. The separately thing confuses this, implies they can't see each other. Other wise it's easy... the 3 hat riddle is better.


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Re: Crazy Thought Experiment/Logic Problem

Postby Goblin-King » Monday July 4th, 2016 5:23pm

knightkrawler wrote:Both of them seeing each other clears it up.
Prisoner A picks the color he sees on B, prisoner B picks the color he doesn't see on A.
The right guess is green:

situation: A white B white
guesses: A blue B white

situation: A blue B white
guesses: A white B white

situation: A white B blue
guesses: A blue B blue

situation: A blue B blue
guesses: A blue B white

This.

I thought they were in separate rooms. They can see the other prisoner's hat, but not their own, right?


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Re: Crazy Thought Experiment/Logic Problem

Postby knightkrawler » Monday July 4th, 2016 5:36pm

I made a mistake while typing, though.
Fixed in the priginal post.
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