Goblin-King wrote:Gold Bearer wrote:Why is nobody getting this?
Two boxes of money and nobody can see the logic of taking both?
Maybe you are not explaining the scenario clearly enough.
It seems not.
Goblin-King wrote:So okay... I'm in the first episode of the gameshow ever.
The host is about to explain the audience and me the rules. What exactly does the host tell me?
'Congratulations on making it to the final round Mr King. In front of you are two boxes. Box A contains 1000 galactic space credits, box B either contains 100 or 1,000,000 galactic space credits. You can have both boxes or just box B, but there's a catch. Goldy, our super intelligent behavioural prediction quantum computer program that's never been wrong, has predicted what you will decide based on the information I'm about give you. If it predicted that you would take both boxes then box B contains only 100 galactic space credits but if it predicted that you would choose to take only box B then box B contains 1,000,000 credits. Would you like to take both boxes or just box B?'
Goblin-King wrote:To me it seems the only reason to take both boxes ever would be if you REALLY needed 1.001.000 British Pounds.
They'll probably be worth 5 Euros by then.
Count Mohawk wrote:I just realized that Gold Bearer's question gives you the box with potentially one million galactic credits whether you take one box or two, whereas when I first read it I thought he meant you could take either just the box with 1,000 or both boxes.
Naturally, the choice between 1,000 or 1,100 / 1,001,000 is much more interesting than the choice between 1,000,000 or 1,100 / 1,001,000.
It's a choice between 1,100 / 1,001,000 or 100 / 1,000,000 but if the computer's right it's a choice between 1,100 or 1,000,000.
Count Mohawk wrote:Although, if you assume the omniscient computer is inherently malevolent, then the best choice will always be to take both boxes, as an omniscient computer that also hates you would never put 1,000,000 credits into the box beforehand.
It's not malevolent or benevolent, it's entirely impartial.
knightkrawler wrote:1) I assume I'm told what A contains and what B might contain.
Yes.
knightkrawler wrote:2) I assume I'm also told that that program has already worked out what I'm gonna choose.
Yes.
knightkrawler wrote:I thereby assume that it has worked out that I'm the kind of guy choosing B because of point 1, so there's 1,000,000 galactic credits in it.
You don't know until you've made your choice.
cynthialee wrote:I can always find a way to randomize as far as my perception is concerned.
I may decide to look at the tiny hair on my finger and if it is odd I choose one way or if it is even I choose the other. Maybe I make the choice based on what is the color of the hosts eyes, if one color I choose one way and if another color I go with the other option.
I can always find a way to bring random into the equation.
Also I must object and strenuously....just because a particular intellect has never been wrong is no guarantee that it will always be right. The moment I introduce a random into the situation...that perfect streak will break with in the first 3 times it is tested.
For the sake of this you're unable to make a random choice. There's no such thing as random anyway. When you roll a dice the outcome is determined by the inertia, angle and spin of the though. You're put in sensory isolation if you like so there's no way of randomising it, but that's not really necessary because it's a highly advanced quantum super computer that will have worked out what 'random' criteria you will use it worked out the result because it knows the colour of the host's eyes, etc.
This gets weirder the more you think about it. Does quickly and decisively choosing only box B increase the chances of getting the one million?