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Re: Electric Universe

Postby Gold Bearer » January 25th, 2015, 1:56 pm

As I said:
Gold Bearer wrote:Highly speculative but fun to think about.
Having said that, from what I've read and seen, the pyramid in Bosnia is very real and not naturally formed. There's actually four pyramids in the area and they're all perfectly alligned with each other and the four compass points. Radar imaging has proved the existence of an underground network of tunnels connecting them and there's a detectable resenance frequency inside and above the huge one. It also has stone steps around it that are obviously not natural. It would be one hell of a hoax if it's a money making scam. I'm going there in a few months, I need to see it for myself. It's on public land so if they try charging me for it they can sod off.

There's a French team of divers that confimed earlier reports of a crystal pyramid in the Bermuda triangle apparently. It creates whirlpools because of the current flowing through the opening towards the tip of the pyramid. This one could easily be bollocks but it's a facinating story.

You will find underground flowing water in a lot of places if you dig deep enough but pyramids tend to be built over flowing water close to the surface from what I've been lead to believe.

From everything I've seen, read and been told, the egyption pyramids are definitely NOT tombs! No bodies have ever been found in them. The tombs are in differnt types of buildings.

I'm not sure about the sphinx rock but I was under the impression that the part of the rock that's actually been carved shows millions of years worth of water erosion.

I'm not confident enough in the authenticity of the evidence I've seen to claim that this is all true, it's just something I find interesting and want to look further into.
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Re: Electric Universe

Postby Anderas » January 25th, 2015, 5:05 pm

There's a French team of divers that confimed earlier reports of a crystal pyramid in the Bermuda triangle apparently. It creates whirlpools because of the current flowing through the opening towards the tip of the pyramid. This one could easily be bollocks but it's a facinating story.


No, that's bollocs. A Crystal Pyramid could easily be found on all the Radar Pics that are made every day. If there's no photo, there's no Pyramid.


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Re: Electric Universe

Postby Gold Bearer » January 25th, 2015, 6:49 pm

After a very quick search:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYajkHqqqak
http://guardianlv.com/2013/07/new-horiz ... ncesvideo/
Looks like more have been found. This should be all over the news if it's it's true. Sadly the fact that it isn't could suggest that it is true just as easily as suggesting that it isn't.
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Re: Electric Universe

Postby Big Bene » January 26th, 2015, 5:29 am

The egyptian pyramids are tombs.

They developed clearly from earlier forms of tombs.
The kings of the first and second dynasties were burried in block-shaped so-called mastaba tombs. The more elaborate of those had an outer wall with a regular pattern of niches. They were separated into several rooms with solid walls (no doors), but only wooden roofs, the biggst room in the middle was the burial chamber, topped by a small tumulus.
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(This is just a random image I choose because it shows the niched wall so good. The tumulus is not included, because it was not known to the time of this old publicatioin).

In the third dynasty, the kings were buried in step pyramids, from which only the first one, the one of Djoser, is preserved
Djoser.jpg

You can clearly see how the whole complex is a magnified version of the mastaba with the pyramid in place of the tumulus.

The pyramid was also not invented at the spot, first there was built a block-shaped structure (like the less elaborate mastabas), wich was latewr enlarged twice. Then a first step pyramid was built over it wich in turn was enlarged to the pyramid present today.
The pyramid complex and the pyramid itself is filled up with funeral structures.

The first king of the forth dynasty, Senefru, tried to build a true pyramid (not stepped, with flat faces), after two failed attempts he succeded. His succesors built the big pyramids at Gizah.
In the fifth and later dynasties, the pyramids were much smaller again, but richly decorated with funeral texts.

No corpses have been found in the pyramids of the old kingdom (except for the Djoser pyramid, but these were probably of later date), but this is only natural. Most tombs except the poorest have been robbed in antique or medieval times. This is equally true for most of the richer private (non-royal) tombs of all times and all of the tombs of the new kingdom kings in the valley of the kings except Tutankhamon and the person in KV55 (Akhenaten?).
The great pyramid of Chufu was opened in the 9th century by the Calife Abdullah al-Mamun (son of Harun al-Rashid), and according to legend (no formal account of the excavation has survived), he indeed found the intact mummy of the king.

Of the old kingdom pyramids, the most impressive are the ones from the forth dynasty, and these are the ones wich are at first glance show the least evidence of their funeral contexts. But still, they contain burial chambers with sarcophages. They are part of a royal funeral complex with temples, and moreover, are part of huge cementeries with many private tombs around them. They also fit clearly in the developement from the third to the fifth dynasty pyramids, wich are more visible identified as tombs, the first by architectonic context, the latter by textual evidence.

In the middle kingdom the pyramids were bigger again, but built in mudbrick rather than stone and are therefore poorly preserved. They have of course still funeral chambers, sometimes with sarcophages, sometimes the latter have been integrated into the architecture in the form of hewn-out "basins". During the middle kingdom, the underground part of the pyramids grow larger (due to the Osirian cult gaining importance), and in size and shape develope into the form of the new kingdom royal tombs.

In the new kingdom, the kings were burried in underground tombs hewn in the rock of the valley of the king. As the pyramid as a tomb form was abandoned by the kings, it was adopted by the commoners (just like the mastaba almost a millenium before). Small pyramids became parts of the tombs of the wealthy, again clearly funeral (those tombs do not differ from other private tombs of the time without pyramids, and in some of them even the corpses were still found).

Gold Bearer wrote:pyramids tend to be built over flowing water close to the surface

In most place of the world, you will find water close to the surface, a few meters at most. Being built in the desert, on raised ground, the Egyptian pyramids are in places where the groundwater level is actually deeper than in most of the surrounding country. Many of them have deep underground structures, which would not be possible in places with high ground water.

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As for the "crystal pyramids" the two sources you cite are quite strange. They clearly come from the para-science scene. Those people tend to believe everything if only it somehow seems to "contradict the mainstream".
It fits that they do not just state the facts of the (possible) finds as the archeological sensation they could be, but instantly start to speculate about alchemy, the bermuda triangle mystery (wich covers a good part of the north atlantic, so something being "in the bermuda triangle" means next to nothing) and conspiracy theories.
But at least the articles cite names and dates, so one could base a more serious research on them.

the pyramid in Bosnia is very real and not naturally formed.
Not according to any source I found so far, and from the images and descriptions I would also say myself it looks very natural.
I really do not have the time now to do any serious research about both the "crystal" and the Bosnia pyramids, but I find them definitely worth a closer look, even if I do not really expect there will be real eveidence of them being artificial structures (or even exist, in the case of the Atlantic ones), I'm open for almost everything.
It would be one hell of a hoax if it's a money making scam.
I don't think it is. I think the people involved really believe in what they say. They are just properly probably mistaken.

But then again, even if the Bosnian, Atlantean or some other obscure "pyramids" proof to be real in the end, they are hugely different from the well known Egyptian, Mesoamerican and Chinese pyramids, which in turn are very different in form, function and even building time, from one another. None of them are part of a global concept of energy-managing devices.
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Re: Electric Universe

Postby Gold Bearer » January 26th, 2015, 11:31 am

Thanks for the info. |_P

Big Bene wrote:In most place of the world, you will find water close to the surface, a few meters at most.
I didn't know that.

Big Bene wrote:As for the "crystal pyramids" the two sources you cite are quite strange.
Those two were just the first ones I came accross after a quick search.

Big Bene wrote:
the pyramid in Bosnia is very real and not naturally formed.
Not according to any source I found so far, and from the images and descriptions I would also say myself it looks very natural.
It's the perfect alignment with each other (all four) and with the compass that makes me think they're almost certainly real.

Big Bene wrote:But then again, even if the Bosnian, Atlantean or some other obscure "pyramids" proof to be real in the end, they are hugely different from the well known Egyptian, Mesoamerican and Chinese pyramids, which in turn are very different in form, function and even building time, from one another. None of them are part of a global concept of energy-managing devices.
Perhaps not, it is a long shot. I'm not prepared to rule it out yet though.

There's three other (at least) interesting posiblilities as well. One in Ukraine, one off the coast of Portugal I think and one in Alaska. I think the one in Alaska has the least evidencen to supporting its existance. I makes me wonder how many undiscovered ones there are. I don't think it's suprising there aren't more. I think it's amazing there are as many as we find. These are huge structures that took a lot of energy to build.
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Re: Electric Universe

Postby cornixt » January 26th, 2015, 12:46 pm

Just found this thread. Hilarious, keep it up!

You know why pyramids are so common in ancient civilisations? They weren't, but all the other types of buildings fell down. Can't knock a pyramid down unless you make a huge effort.


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Re: Electric Universe

Postby Anderas » January 26th, 2015, 12:50 pm

A large majority of people believing in conspiracy theories are voting conservative. At least now i know KK and Gold Bearer are conservatives. :D


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Re: Electric Universe

Postby Gold Bearer » January 26th, 2015, 1:13 pm

cornixt wrote:Just found this thread. Hilarious, keep it up!
What's hilarious? The standard model and the idotts who believe in it despite all the evidence disproving it? I agree. If you just mean the pyramid stuff then as I keep saying:
Gold Bearer wrote:Highly speculative but fun to think about.


cornixt wrote:You know why pyramids are so common in ancient civilisations? They weren't, but all the other types of buildings fell down. Can't knock a pyramid down unless you make a huge effort.
Fair point but the fact that they exist at all (the really big ones) is interesting in itself and if there really are pyramids larger than the great pyramid on the ocean floor then that's more than interesting.

Anderas wrote:A large majority of people believing in conspiracy theories are voting conservative. At least now i know KK and Gold Bearer are conservatives. :D
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Re: Electric Universe

Postby knightkrawler » January 26th, 2015, 1:18 pm

Anderas wrote:A large majority of people believing in conspiracy theories are voting conservative. At least now i know KK and Gold Bearer are conservatives. :D


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Oh, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist, at least not in the topic of this thread. I don't even understand what GB and Flesh have posted here. But I stand by my point that everyone has to think for themselves and doubt any piece of information they get until there's reason to believe it other than that the majority or someone important signed it.
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Re: Electric Universe

Postby Gold Bearer » January 26th, 2015, 1:36 pm

http://www.omrlp.com/ By far the most sane choice for britain.

knightkrawler wrote:But I stand by my point that everyone has to think for themselves and doubt any piece of information they get until there's reason to believe it other than that the majority or someone important signed it.
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