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torilen wrote:leave it to cp to ruin it for all of us.
chaoticprime wrote:There's actually four more classical elements: hot, cold, dry and wet.
chaoticprime wrote:There is also Quintessence--"Akasha, Void, Planar and Aether", technically.
chaoticprime wrote:Should "technically" even apply here. Classical elements are about as scientific as the Almagest.
Big Bene wrote:chaoticprime wrote:There's actually four more classical elements: hot, cold, dry and wet.
These are not elements but the "qualities" the classical elements were connected to (since Aristotle).
Fire = hot and dry, air = wet and hot, water = cold and wet, earth = dry and cold.
They are therefore accidents, not substance.chaoticprime wrote:There is also Quintessence--"Akasha, Void, Planar and Aether", technically.
The quintessence ("fifth essence") was also introduced by Aristotle as the unchanging substance of the stars (as opposed to the ever changing four earthly elements). He called it Aether, and later more ideas were conneccted to it, like beeing the primordial substance from which the four elements are made. "Akasha" is a very similar concept from indian philosophy, "Void" and "Planar" are only very loosely related.chaoticprime wrote:Should "technically" even apply here. Classical elements are about as scientific as the Almagest.
Science is a process. The greek philosophers who developed the four element theory were at least as ingenious as the modern physicists. The alchemists of the renaissance were the true inventors of what we call "(empirical) science".
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