5. HQ25 - Spells, tiles, mechanics and misc

[Gold Bearer]

It is the most complicated spell as it stands. What about without the combat dice roll?

Fever
This spell will inflict a terrible fever upon a target in sight. They roll one less defence dice, one less attack dice and move at half their standard rate or rolled score (rounding up). A character with fever rolls a standard dice at the start of their turn and fights off the effects if they roll under their current number of mind points. Any any non undead/Nurgle/swamp based characters who start their turn adjacent (including diagonally adjacent) to character with the fever are also infected if they fail to roll under their current number of mind points. The effects of Cloud Of Flies, Pestilence and Nurgles Rot are not cumulative with each other but are cumulative with Fever.

I just like the idea of it being able to spread. It could used to infect monsters.


I can't get heroscribe to work at all now. Ater trying the addon pack again and then deleting it and moving the original folder back it won't run. It just comes up with the unzip box, so I uninstalled it, downloaded it again and reinstalled it and the same thing happens! This is so frustrating. I've given up for the day, I'll try a system restore tomorrow to see if that works. Is this because I'm using XP?

[Sjeng]

Before you try messing with windows, check the HS topic, I had similar issues. I posted my solution. There is a step by step troubleshooter as well.

[Gold Bearer]

Got it working!!! Cheers.

[Daedalus]

I liked some of the earlier spell suggestions, and decided to work them up a bit differently as Swamp Spells. First, I have a redo of Baylor_OgreBane's Will-'O-Whisp spell incorporating Goblin-King's suggestion.

Will-'o-wisp
Gaseous balls of energy appear, sparking
maliciously. This spell may be cast on any
one monster, including the caster. That
monster may roll two extra combat dice
when defending. The spell is broken when
the monster suffers 1 Body Point of
damage. [edited]



Second, there is Gold Bearer's Swamp Zombies and Marsh Skeletons mashed up with Summon Undead. Fimir in a Swamp could use a summoning spell, but Summon Undead is already a Chaos Spell.

Swamp Summons
This spell conjures up a group of putrid
undead to attack the caster's enemies.
(Swamp Skeletons and Zombies have 1
extra Body Point. Place them adjacent to
the caster.) Roll one red die:
Roll 1 or 2 = 3 Skeletons
Roll 3 or 4 = 2 Skeletons, 1 Zombie
Roll 5 or 6 = 3 Skeletons, 2 Zombies


Third, I worked up Baylor_OgreBane's Tangling Weeds suggestion with elements of MrBigB's Creeping Snare and Dewayne Agin's Slime. Slime belongs with Dewayne Agin's Fimir Spells and should be left out of the Swamp Spell Cards, but a movement restricter works great thematically.

Tangling Vines
This spell may be cast to ensnare one Hero
in tangling roots and vines. That Hero may
not move and rolls one less combat die to
defend. The spell can be broken on a
future turn by the Hero rolling one red die
for each of his Body Points. If a 6 is rolled,
the spell ends. An adjacent Hero may also
roll to end the spell using a special action.

[Daedalus]

I've compiled an index composed of links for reference of this thread. It includes all relevant HQ 25 spell posts including spell names and descriptions, suggestions, and comments (sometimes you need to read down a post for relevant info.) Bolded entries are from Count Mowhawk's selection of revised spells found in the HQ25 - The great TO-DO list topic. Though many entries didn't make it on his list, I included them anyway for completeness as they may inspire other uses in the expansion.

Why bother? My aim is to provide an efficient and logical means for understanding what the community has presented as a whole. A few relevant posts from the Ye Olde Inn 25th Anniversary HeroQuest quest pack topic are included for completeness. [-edit] From here, renewed discussion may follow and polls can be created with just the relevant spell links included between them so that all Inn members can have the opportunity for an informed, equal say in choosing the final form of each of the HQ 25 spells. Editors will reserve the right to make adjustments, as per the Design Document.

Swamp Spells:

• Acid Rain, Slime, more here
• Tangling weeds, Turn Ground to Bog, Noxious Fog
• Target get -1 combat die to defense for a round, Weakened attacks, Rust effects - I like the acid rain!, anti movement, Hallucination, more here, more here
• Slough, more here, more here, more here, more here
• Cloud of Flies, Swamp Beast, Rot/Putrifaction, Insect Swarm, Disease, more here, more here, more here, more here, more here
• Fever, more here, more here, more here, more here
• Bog Plague, more here
• Noxious Spores, more here
• Will-'O-Whisp, more here, more here
• Summon Swamp Beast, more here
• Summon Swamp Zombies, more here, more here, more here
• Toxic Cloud
• Pestilence
• Creeping Snare
• Acid Spray
• Summon Marsh Skeletons
• Slough, Acid Spray, Creeping Snare, and Noxious Spores as traps
• Swamp Summons, Tangling Vines
• Marsh Mists

Chaos Spells:

• Veil of Mist, Summon Beastmen, Frenzy, Shield of Protection, Summon Kobolds, Sharpen Axes, Doom, Mask of Chaos, Corruption
  Petrify

Chaos Cultist Spells:

• Doom, Mask of Chaos, Corruption, Discord, Waking Nightmare, Disturb, Torment, Blood Sacrifice, Retribution

Kobold Spells:

• concept, more here
• Invisibility, Lousy, Feary Gold, Two Left Hands, Stumble, Balloon, Unsheathed, Titch, Look Behind You!, Furry,
  Nockin' on Dungeon's Door, more here, more here, more here, more here
• Invisibility, Lousy, Feary Gold, Two Left Hands, Balloon, Unsheathe, Titch, Wandering Monster!, Knock-knock

Chaos Dwarf Spells:

• Crimson Bull, Lava Hide, Collapse, Eruption, Subjugate, Sharpen Blades, Magma Pool
• Ash Cloud, Curse of Stone, Hatred, Fiery Hammer, Lava Storm

Beastman Shaman Spells:

• Summon Beastmen, Survival, Ferocity, Savagery, Howl, Bloodlust
• Trample, Charge, Dominance

• Ye Olde Inn 25th Anniversary HeroQuest quest pack topic
  spells that defend with Mind Points or drain Mind Points, more here,
  limit on Mind Point draining

[MrBigB]

I liked some of the earlier spell suggestions, and decided to work them up a bit differently as Swamp Spells. First, I have a redo of Baylor_OgreBane's Will-'O-Whisp spell incorporating Goblin-King's suggestion.

Will-'o-wisp
Gaseous balls of energy appear, sparking
maliciously. This spell may be cast on any
one Hero, including yourself. That Hero
may roll two extra combat dice when
defending. The spell is broken when the
Hero suffers 1 Body Point of damage.



Second, there is Gold Bearer's Swamp Zombies and Marsh Skeletons mashed up with Summon Undead. Fimir in a Swamp could use a summoning spell, but Summon Undead is already a Chaos Spell.

Swamp Summons
This spell conjures up a group of putrid
undead to attack the caster's enemies.
(Swamp Skeletons and Zombies have 1
extra Body Point. Place them adjacent to
the caster.) Roll one red die:
Roll 1 or 2 = 3 Skeletons
Roll 3 or 4 = 2 Skeletons, 1 Zombie
Roll 5 or 6 = 3 Skeletons, 2 Zombies


Third, I worked up Baylor_OgreBane's Tangling Weeds suggestion with elements of MrBigB's Creeping Snare and Dewayne Agin's Slime. Slime belongs with Dewayne Agin's Fimir Spells and should be left out of the Swamp Spell Cards, but a movement restricter works great thematically.

Tangling Vines
This spell may be cast to ensnare one Hero
in tangling vines and roots. That Hero may
not move and rolls one less combat die to
defend. The spell can be broken on a
future turn by the Hero rolling one red die
for each of his Body Points. If a 6 is rolled,
the spell ends. An adjacent Hero may also
roll to end the spell as a special action.

These are AWESOME. Very clean, concise, and themed very well for a swamp deck.

[gootchute]

Tiles.

What is the consensus on overlay tile use in HQ25?

a) As long as it is in HeroScribe it is fair game. (this includes other games such as the D&D Adventure Game)
b) As long as it is available on the Inn it is fair game. (only tiles in the download section may be used)
c) No tile overlays.
d) Only use tile overlays you provide original artwork for.

I prefer option one, as I'd like to use a couple of tiles form the D&D boardgame in my quests, which are available in the image gallery.

[Goblin-King]

I's say option d. Feels most like a quest pack that way to me - and frankly I'd say definitely not a.
I'm not really comfortable with pulling in materials from other games.

But what kind of tile do you need in particular? Maybe we can get it made.
Personally I'd actually like to see a couple of new overlays.

[mako-heart]

Is there anyway we can get this as a put together as a complete pack with the tiles and monsters and cards all professionaly done? Or did I miss that somewhere I'd totally be in on this!

[Count Mohawk]

Is there anyway we can get this as a put together as a complete pack with the tiles and monsters and cards all professionaly done? Or did I miss that somewhere I'd totally be in on this!

I believe the plan is to put together all the required art and package all of that together. Jury's out re: monster figures, though. In any case, the bulk of the remaining mechanical work is the Quests themselves, which we only have 6 out of 25 in various stages of completion.