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Re: Summons of the Wizards' Council - a work in progress

Postby knightkrawler » Friday September 1st, 2017 8:15am

More suggestions and considering points:

Between Quest 5 and 6, there should be a break in the storyline.
Can the heroes buy equipment between quests, and if not, can they between those two? It would make sense.

QUEST 5:
the only thing I would change is "double normal" to just "double" under B.

QUEST 6:
in the intro: "Now you are here" --> "Now that you are here" because of the following "you"-subject in the main clause.

QUEST 7:
"re-appear as they become in line-of-sight" --> "are placed on the board a second time as the Heroes gain line of sight to their map positions."

A: --> "These Orcs have crossbows and may attack any one visible Hero."

B: "Heroes may only defeat their own counterpart." --> IF other heroes can attack your counterpart but not take their last body point, this wording if OK.
IF other heroes cannot even attack or cast a spell on your counterpart, replace "defeat" with "attack or cast a spell on".

QUEST 8:
perfectly fine

INTRODUCTION PAGE:
no mistakes struck my eye

QUESTS 9 & 10:
perfectly fine
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Re: Summons of the Wizards' Council - a work in progress

Postby Spookyhappyfun » Friday September 1st, 2017 1:01pm

I'm still reading through this, but the idea is great and this is incredible work.

One thing, though, and I'm sure it'll seem blasphemous to many, but I wonder whether it would be possible to change the title of "Revenge of the Weather-Man" to "Revenge of the Weather-Mage"?

The original name has always seemed silly and conjures up images of a shlubby guy in an ill-fitted suit with a bad haircut sneaking in to the local television station at night to drop a deuce on the director's desk.

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Re: Summons of the Wizards' Council - a work in progress

Postby j_dean80 » Friday September 1st, 2017 1:11pm

knightkrawler wrote:QUEST 7:
B: "Heroes may only defeat their own counterpart." --> IF other heroes can attack your counterpart but not take their last body point, this wording if OK.
IF other heroes cannot even attack or cast a spell on your counterpart, replace "defeat" with "attack or cast a spell on"


I was torn on this detail when making the Quest. Never fully decided without it getting play-tested. That's the reason for leaving it ambiguous.
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Re: Summons of the Wizards' Council - a work in progress

Postby knightkrawler » Friday September 1st, 2017 1:30pm

j_dean80 wrote:
knightkrawler wrote:QUEST 7:
B: "Heroes may only defeat their own counterpart." --> IF other heroes can attack your counterpart but not take their last body point, this wording if OK.
IF other heroes cannot even attack or cast a spell on your counterpart, replace "defeat" with "attack or cast a spell on"


I was torn on this detail when making the Quest. Never fully decided without it getting play-tested. That's the reason for leaving it ambiguous.


Idea: replace "defeat" with "attack"
This way, the Wizard (and the Elf) are at the advantage that they can fight all Heroes of Chaos, provided they have some offensive spells to use.
It's the Wizard Quest Pack after all.
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Re: Summons of the Wizards' Council - a work in progress

Postby j_dean80 » Friday September 1st, 2017 2:47pm

knightkrawler wrote:
j_dean80 wrote:
knightkrawler wrote:QUEST 7:
B: "Heroes may only defeat their own counterpart." --> IF other heroes can attack your counterpart but not take their last body point, this wording if OK.
IF other heroes cannot even attack or cast a spell on your counterpart, replace "defeat" with "attack or cast a spell on"


I was torn on this detail when making the Quest. Never fully decided without it getting play-tested. That's the reason for leaving it ambiguous.


Idea: replace "defeat" with "attack"
This way, the Wizard (and the Elf) are at the advantage that they can fight all Heroes of Chaos, provided they have some offensive spells to use.
It's the Wizard Quest Pack after all.


If the Elf or Wizard defeats anothers Chaos counterpart with Spells that would in turn cause the matching Hero to lose a Mind Point? (Since the battle is inside their Minds)
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Re: Summons of the Wizards' Council - a work in progress

Postby knightkrawler » Friday September 1st, 2017 3:08pm

Thematically sound, but very dangerous for the Barbarian, especially.
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Re: Summons of the Wizards' Council - a work in progress

Postby j_dean80 » Friday September 1st, 2017 8:56pm

knightkrawler wrote:Thematically sound, but very dangerous for the Barbarian, especially.


Without any bosses using MP spells in that Quest I guess it wouldn't really matter. The only way it would be a valid rule is if they lost 1 MP per 1 BP that another Hero took from their Chaos counterpart using a Spell. Then it would have a function. Otherwise losing 1 MP in a Quest who cares cause it comes back before the next Quest anyways.
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Re: Summons of the Wizards' Council - a work in progress

Postby j_dean80 » Friday September 1st, 2017 9:02pm

Spookyhappyfun wrote:One thing, though, and I'm sure it'll seem blasphemous to many, but I wonder whether it would be possible to change the title of "Revenge of the Weather-Man" to "Revenge of the Weather-Mage"?

The original name has always seemed silly and conjures up images of a shlubby guy in an ill-fitted suit with a bad haircut sneaking in to the local television station at night to drop a deuce on the director's desk.

Maybe that's just me, though.


The "story" already calls him a Weather-Wizard. Revenge of the Weather-Wizard is too long for a title.
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Re: Summons of the Wizards' Council - a work in progress

Postby j_dean80 » Friday September 1st, 2017 9:08pm

knightkrawler wrote:Edits to consider:

QUEST 4
"I believe he has been buried in..." --> "I have reason to believe he has been buried alive in..."
"...shortbows. They may roll 2 combat dice on ranged attack." --> "...shortbows. They may attack any hero they can see." OR "any visible hero."

"A hero rolls...wastes their Action."
--> "A hero can attempt to open a coffin or tomb in the same room by rolling one red die, without any monsters present. A coffin or tomb will open if the number assigned to it in the map is rolled with the die. If an unassigned number is rolled, a wandering monster appears and attacks. If a number assigned to an already opened coffin or tomb is rolled, nothing will happen and the hero's action ends."

Comment: I think this is way too many potential Wandering Monsters flooding the room where the heroes first have to kill them all and then take the next attempt at opening a coffin. Potentially very very tedious to play.


A suggestion how to make it better?
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Re: Summons of the Wizards' Council - a work in progress

Postby j_dean80 » Friday September 1st, 2017 9:33pm

knightkrawler wrote:More suggestions and considering points:

Between Quest 5 and 6, there should be a break in the storyline.
Can the heroes buy equipment between quests, and if not, can they between those two? It would make sense.


Wasn't planning to limit buying ability.
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