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FIRST LIGHT discussion

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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby Kurgan » Friday June 14th, 2024 10:47am

Yep, while the day is young I am going to call it... we played ourselves. An assumption based upon translations of NEO's posts on youtube (since deleted). I was wrong to go along with it... the Target reveal this morning had nothing to do with HeroQuest. :(
But there's always Next Friday... or the Friday After Next...

First Light is real, but we'll have to wait some more for any kind of official reveal.


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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby Kurgan » Friday June 14th, 2024 11:02am

Seekhashem pointed out that Ribby posted the article in HQF discord... apparently confirming the things that NEO (and my source) were saying, at least to a point:

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/heroquest-reveals-new-player-focused-first-light-game-system/

Is this an unreliable rag? I would remind folks that (years later) I saw they posted images of the preliminary Druid and Bard and those images didn't appear on any other prominent pages. So to me this is confirmation. Now whether that cover image is real and final, keep in mind even one of the people who worked on the Jungles of Delthrak expansion promoted the "fake" box image (we later learned it was a deliberate Easter Egg, albeit the most tricky one yet).

So while being wrong about the Target event's connection, I feel I can relax a little on this one!


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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby LucaRocks » Friday June 14th, 2024 11:33am

Well, they say preorder is open. I don't see any at the usual places. Could it be coming later today? Who knows lol
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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby Kurgan » Friday June 14th, 2024 11:36am

Another article, thanks Axian!
https://gamerant.com/avalon-hill-releases-new-heroquest-expansion-details-announces-new-starter-pack/?taid=666c5404d6c53600013e2da2

Regardless of how much freedom game runners are given or how powerful a character is made, new players are, more often than not, going to be intimidated by a new TTRPG. Avalon Hill will not be deterred though, as they are currently on a quest to bring new players to the table and make their stay as pleasant as possible. To that end, HeroQuest: First Light offers an easy introduction, with a price to match. First Light is a new starter set that takes place at the same time as the standard starter set, but has been pared down quite a bit and made much more approachable for new players to enjoy. This version of HeroQuest makes it easy even for young teens and older kids to join in and comes with absolutely everything you need to get into HeroQuest at a fraction of the cost of the main beginner’s box.

The First Light set comes with new quests and Avalon Hill teased at the set offering players special components and extra abilities to help players have the full HeroQuest experience, including the threat of character death, without the commitment that keeps plenty of players away from TTRPGs. The game is balanced for four players and one DM, though the quests are much more narrative and roleplay driven, meaning that players can control more than one character without much issue, especially if they’re a veteran gamer. That roleplay-heavy design is two-fold, helping new players immerse themselves in the HeroQuest world and allowing them to simply jump into the game, rather than spend time doing prep work, like building a character, before the actual game starts.

The first chance to play it will be at GenCon 2024, where it’s expected that Avalon Hill will reveal more specific information, including a release date. If you’re heading to GenCon this year, you can register for gameplay sessions through the convention website. Avalon Hill has multiple sessions available not only for HeroQuest: Jungles of Delthrak and HeroQuest: First Light, but also for their other recent and upcoming titles, such as Life in Reterra and Talisman 5th edition.
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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby Kurgan » Friday June 14th, 2024 11:47am

Enough news?

Seekhashem linked some stuff from facebook...
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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby Kurgan » Friday June 14th, 2024 11:51am

seek's on fire... Instagram repeats the same info, with the same images:

Seems its making the rounds on social media. X next?
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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby HispaZargon » Friday June 14th, 2024 5:03pm

So surprised about seeing how AH thinks that a 100 dollar box full of plastic and cool things intimidate people to buy it, however they will surely buy a 50 dollar box full of... cardboard parts?

To be honest I don't see the actual marketing strategy behind this, not sure if they are really going in the right direction with the franchise...


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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby SirRick » Friday June 14th, 2024 5:52pm

The article seems to be written almost like one of those tv commercials where the actors are having an extremely hard time trying to do a simple task, like squeezing toothpaste onto a toothbrush. Then there is the point where the actors throw up their hands in frustration and walk away angrily.

“… but wait! We have just what you need! HeroQuest: First Light!”

The only work a new player has to do is name their character. I do understand the intimidation factor for buying the game system, however. Maybe I’m out of touch with today’s youth, but $135 seems to be a lot of money for a kid to fork over for a game they probably know little about.

I know when the original game came out, it was fairly easy to come across used copies of the game that people had opened, looked through the contents for 5 minutes, and decided the game was too complicated and never touched it again. The game was much cheaper back then, compared to today, so it wasn’t as much of a gamble.

The main value I see in this is it sounds like the quests will be a somewhat truncated version of the GS quest book, meaning you probably get the same stuff, but in less time. So even veteran players will appreciate not having to play “The Rescue of Sir Ragnar” for the 18th time. Maybe they will be new versions of the same quests, I don’t know.

I’m looking forward to whatever new stuff will be in this set. I really doubt it will contain cardboard hero minis. It will really hurt sales if they do that. I hope it will be some alternate sculpts, then additional minis made of cardboard if needed. So maybe a couple of each monster, and four alternate heroes. If you look at an expansion like FH, it comes with dice, character sheets, cardboard tile sheet and lots of figures. I could see them cramming everything you would need into the box. It also depends on what sort of game surface they provide. My money is a poster folded in six sections to function as the board. We shall see…


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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby Kurgan » Saturday June 15th, 2024 12:26pm

Another article appears thanks Elvyler for posting it on HQF discord:

https://www.gamesradar.com/tabletop-gaming/new-heroquest-starter-set-is-like-avalon-hills-answer-to-gloomhaven-jaws-of-the-lion/

Slight error... there was no "2023 revision" (I think they meant the 2022 slim box?).

Later on...

HeroQuest: First Light is designed with new players in mind, taking plenty of steps to ease in those who may not be familiar with adventure board games. As part of the ‘no homework, no sprues’ experience, First Light will be an all-in-one starter kit that allows tabletop gamers of a wide range of ages and experience levels to dive right into the fantasy RPG-inspired action.

While First Light will be many players’ first step into the world of HeroQuest, that certainly doesn’t mean their journey has to end there. HeroQuest: First Light is compatible with all HeroQuest expansions. Even established players will be able to find plenty to enjoy in this beginner-friendly box as its quest takes place in the same timeframe as the base game, meaning you can expect to find new elements to discover.

That’s all we’ve learned about HeroQuest: First Light so far but a full reveal will take place at GenCon.


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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby Pelkone » Monday June 17th, 2024 6:27pm

New HeroQuest starter set is like Avalon Hill’s answer to Gloomhaven: Jaws of the Lion


Bold claim. Of course it's not from Hasbro themselves, but still.
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