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FIRST LIGHT discussion

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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby LucaRocks » Monday June 10th, 2024 6:46pm

Whereas JOD had Heroscape influences, I think First Light (whatever it ends up being) will be influenced by Talisman.

So maybe we will see some analogues to the core heroes influenced by Talisman. Maybe a monk, warrior, prophetess or something.

That's my hope at least. If they just did repeats of the core heroes and monsters (which is more likely), I'd be way less excited. Prob still pick it up. I'm sure it will have a couple of new minis (maybe classic Warlock design?) to attract veterans.
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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby Kurgan » Monday June 10th, 2024 7:03pm

Yeah I could easily imagine it having alternate sculpts of the classic heroes (perfect opportunity to have the female Dwarf and Wizard... maybe get all four alternates in there?). I could imagine a plastic bad guy for the boss and the rest of the monsters (and furniture as mentioned) be tiles or standees of some kind. Board could be constituted by tiles or a play mat. I think it will be stand alone with the pieces scaled to be compatible with other HQ boxes. We always worried about sets containing exclusives, imagine if one store had one unique mini while another had a different one. People would be annoyed!

Maybe a smaller level game, perhaps 2 heroes and Zargon? The Quest book might be smaller (designed around room tiles perhaps unless the board folds many more ways to compress it into a smaller box) but they could be all new adventures. Having some storyline tie into the past of HeroQuest (or the future) would be great.

The most boring thing would be if it were just the regular GS in a smaller box with things missing. Less of a good feeling to buy this then decide to buy the GS if it were that. But if it were new content it could motivate even veteran collectors like us to fork over to get whatever new things are inside.

If it's a Starter Set, that to me says simplicity. So while it could be a repository for all sorts of new rule clarifications as we've seen bandied about on social media or in digital format, instead I would see this as pretty basic and close to the GS (maybe even simplified).

What if the quests themselves were simple, like "The Maze," and "the Arena" of the 1st edition (before we had the ATOH one) and the first few quests of the Japanese Game System where they introduce you to magic gradually? Of course they could pack that into the game because it's just text at a certain point.

You still need dice, and if those are good quality dice (rather than some cheapo blank cubes with stickers or something like that, thinking of the horrendous ones included with the "HeroQuest Card Game") many would buy it just for that even if the pack was $50! If they really wanted to save some cost they could have it include 4 combat dice and 2 movement like the 1st edition.

You'd need a Treasure Deck (24 cards again or maybe only half that many?)... hero cards. Perhaps only a couple of Artifacts (or maybe none). No need for Dread Spells or maybe just a couple. Only have a small number of equipment cards perhaps just enough for the heroes included. At a certain point it would start to look like a glorified Hero Collection but less than one of the big expansions. Maybe it would be the size of a KK/ROTWL box?

Maybe the box itself would be the GM screen? Or at least it would include its own GM screen perhaps more of a fold out or multi-part thing.

Good point about the D&D Starter Set (of course keeping in mind D&D is at heart a pencil & paper RPG so you really only need dice and a booklet while HQ is a board game). I'm thinking of Gloomhaven: Jaws of the Lion, or the various Barnes and Noble "Bookshelf" games of Warhammer (but even simpler because you don't have to assemble the figures).


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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby HispaZargon » Tuesday June 11th, 2024 12:14pm

Leak of First Light box cover?

Link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSUKsJ ... NduJOz_RF6

If this is not a fake cover, maybe we are going to finally see an official modular board for HeroQuest? Time will say...


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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby LucaRocks » Tuesday June 11th, 2024 12:38pm

I can't run the text through the translator RN but he claims Hasbro showed him the cover and that it will be a starter set to give people a taste of the real game

EDIT: I got the translation
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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby Daedalus » Tuesday June 11th, 2024 2:10pm

A paper fold-out map for the gameboard could work, but I hope tiles are used instead. That way they could be added to a regular gameboard.
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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby SirRick » Tuesday June 11th, 2024 2:52pm

So it does look like a starter set, if the image is real. I wonder if its the type of thing that would be sold at stores like Target, to reach a wider audience?


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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby Kurgan » Tuesday June 11th, 2024 3:41pm

Even if the cover image shown is 100% fake (which I don't think it is; at worst it is another mock up design to get us talking but still close to the real thing), the idea of it being a "Starter Set" for retail stores should be correct.


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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby LucaRocks » Tuesday June 11th, 2024 3:42pm

That's probably what it will be. I think the fact that alot of the base game sets went on clearance recently may be a clue. Retailers were told a new base system was coming so they cleared out some stockto fit the new one coming out
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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby Kurgan » Tuesday June 11th, 2024 3:43pm

Yeah, if we imagine it to be about the same size as the "big" expansion boxes, they could fit a few more of these on physical store shelves which appeals to all sorts of stores.

Amalgamash's video (he beat me by an hour!) on First Light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9sqqbwFERE&t=0s

My video (didn't watch Ash's before posting) on the same subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ba2gjXSYoM

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Re: FIRST LIGHT discussion

Postby Kurgan » Tuesday June 11th, 2024 6:14pm

It's tempting to reach out to BGM to see what combinations of folded or tile versions of the board would fit in one of those boxes but I don't think there's enough time for that probably, and someone will figure it out before me anyway.

As much as I support the idea on principle, I'm not sure I'd be buying this without some compelling new content inside, though gifting it to someone might become an option (then again, I could get them the real GS for a pretty decent price already).


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